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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: WadeMetzinger]
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06/20/14 04:09 PM
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Jim, I'll check but it will be next week. The studs were the only thing Ken didn't have in stock but he ordered them this week and they are being sent directly to me from ARP. So once I get them I'll provide measurements.
I was thinking they were special, meaning they were 1/2" in the block and then necked down to 7/16 at the deck for the 440-1 heads, I didn't notice what size they were when looking at it last night.
KB does offer 1/2" head bolts as an option. He even said they offer 1/2" in the block and 7/16" through the head. I just ordered 7/16" as shown on your quality check list. I don't know what to think that he didn't have studs for your 440-1 heads. When I ordered my block in January he pulled head studs for my order. I wonder where they are...
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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06/20/14 04:42 PM
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. I don't know what to think that he didn't have studs for your 440-1 heads. When I ordered my block in January he pulled head studs for my order. I wonder where they are...
Right where he left them or I guess someone else may have had one on order before us or maybe he's saving them for you..lol
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 04:48 PM
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So the front & rear mains are not cross bolted? I guess I thought all the after market blocks were cross bolted on all five mains....
KB's do not, IndyMAXX blocks do and I think World block do as well. The 3 main caps in the middle of the KB are huge, they stand about 1.5" beyond the oil pan rail where others are even with the oil pan rail.
My Mega block only has cross bolts on 2, 3 and 4 mains.
The KB water block is rated at 2,500hp, not sure what the others are rated for, maybe it's not necessary or maybe they think the 3 in the middle carry most of the load??
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 10:00 PM
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Hello , on this photo the webbing is machined off ( drivers side ) at the back of the block . Is there a specific reason for this ? Gary
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 1320Dart]
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06/21/14 12:23 PM
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Just for reference my block is a Hemi block and the studs are 1/2" in the block and 7/16" from the deck surface up. They were special made for my application. 
I am thinking about this 
KB and I discussed all the head stud options before I ordered my block. I considered the 1/2 to 7/16 studs but decided against it since if you use any other type head (Indy, Edelbrock, B1, etc.) they all use different studs and you would have to buy special studs for the head change. I don't know if all the hemi heads use the same length studs.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 1320Dart]
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06/24/14 02:41 PM
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I just got a nice call from Ken Black about 10 minutes ago. He had a quick question about something on my block. He also said that my block should be done Friday. 
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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06/25/14 03:39 PM
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Good to see your order is almost done.
It looks like your delivery will jump ahead of my order.
I talked to KB on Friday, and he didn't have the casting... and said he will let me know. But no word as of today.
Have you paid the 2nd half of your total?
What heads are you going to use?
if 440-1, see my question about head stud dimensions.
What the heck is still going on with your casting? How many castings has he found bad?
I'm using Original B1's. I'll be using 1/2" studs.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: WadeMetzinger]
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06/25/14 03:48 PM
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I thought I'd share a pictures of a few unique things on the KB block
Wade,
Good info on the oil restrictors with O-ring seal. Did you happen to notice if your block is tapped for 7/16 or 1/2 head studs? I realize you are waiting for studs dropped shipped from ARP.
Greg, are your B1 heads already drilled out for 1/2 studs?
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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06/25/14 03:59 PM
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Nope that's not me. I haven't received mine yet.  KB told me maybe Friday it would get done.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 1320Dart]
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07/01/14 12:18 PM
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Well Friday(6/27/14) has come and gone.  No call from KB. My block still must not done yet.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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07/01/14 02:13 PM
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I talked to KB today, 7/1. He has the casting. He said they are finishing machining for Greg Knight right now and they will start the 1st and 2nd machining operations on mine after that, hopefully Thursday. Then he sends it out for gun drilling for hydraulic (lifter bore, pushrod oiling), about Friday. Lastly it comes back for final machining. I asked him to verify he has the head studs for my order, and the MLS head gaskets. He said he will call me at the end of the week (Thurs or Friday?). He mentioned that the 7/16" studs I ordered have not been a problem getting, but sometimes the 1/2" studs take longer. When I asked a little more detail about the lifter bore/pushrod oiling mod, he mentioned Wade's block and the Moroso oil restrictors (which I liked).
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 1320Dart]
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07/01/14 04:57 PM
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At least I'm hearing updates from someone 
Does he send out the restrictors with all the blocks with pushrod oiling?
I don't think so, as I had to pay extra for them, not much like $30 or something. So I think you need to ask for them because I think they also need to thread the oil galley so they can be used, so there is some additional machine work. That's what I "think". I do know that I brought this up to him in our discussion when I asked him to gun drill the lifter oil galley, that's when he said he would look into how they could restrict the oil to the galley and get back to me and this is what he came up with, but I would suspect they have done this before.
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