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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583581
06/04/14 11:04 AM
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When I called Ken to ask him about my block, I heard about yours. Do you have any new updates?


As I posted yesterday, that is my current status. He didn't call me back yesterday with the foundary pick up date like he said on the phone. I was ready to assemble my engine back in April when my custom pistons arrived. And those were weeks late also. When I ordered my block on Jan 17, 13 weeks would have been April 17.

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 440Jim] #1583582
06/04/14 11:37 AM
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When I called Ken to ask him about my block, I heard about yours. Do you have any new updates?


As I posted yesterday, that is my current status. He didn't call me back yesterday with the foundary pick up date like he said on the phone. I was ready to assemble my engine back in April when my custom pistons arrived. And those were weeks late also. When I ordered my block on Jan 17, 13 weeks would have been April 17.




I called him yesterday evening.
I believe that he is suppose to be picking your block and my block up today or tomorrow. That's why I asked if you had an update on your block


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583583
06/04/14 03:13 PM
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This is so sad to hear how this is an ongoing problem with KB.
I had my block ordered and waited so long that I cancelled it when one came for sale on racingjunk.
Ken called me a few days and said mine was being machined so someone got one pretty early.
I was hearing so many bad stories that I couldn't take the chance so I bailed on the one he had for me.

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Sammy] #1583584
06/04/14 03:35 PM
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You won't get a better block, Period. The wait is not fun but in the end it is well worth it.

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Sammy] #1583585
06/04/14 03:43 PM
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This is so sad to hear how this is an ongoing problem with KB.
I had my block ordered and waited so long that I cancelled it when one came for sale on racingjunk.
Ken called me a few days and said mine was being machined so someone got one pretty early.
I was hearing so many bad stories that I couldn't take the chance so I bailed on the one he had for me.




That really sucks!
Its a crap deal no matter how you look at it.
I had to give sponsor ship money back to a few sponsors because I can't make my promised dates. With out a doubt that looks bad on me. I had nothing to do with it. It was out of my control. And that just adds more fuel to the fire.


Greg

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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583586
06/04/14 04:14 PM
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I understand the frustration, but some of you are beating a dead horse.

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583587
06/04/14 04:21 PM
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I had to give sponsor ship money back to a few sponsors because I can't make my promised dates. With out a doubt that looks bad on me. I had nothing to do with it. It was out of my control. And that just adds more fuel to the fire.




Just curious as to just how big this "sponsorship" was ? You didn't steal away John Forces Castrol deal did you ?

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Biginchmopar] #1583588
06/04/14 04:28 PM
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I have heard lots of people having problem with porosity from foundry or foundries down in the LA area. I have friends that race fast VW’s 8-7 second air cooled deals and their parts are having the same problems with porosity (the foundry).




But aren't air cooled motors supposed to be porous?


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Biginchmopar] #1583589
06/04/14 04:37 PM
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You won't get a better block, Period. The wait is not fun but in the end it is well worth it.




I'm sure hoping so. That's the only thing keeping me sane at the moment!


Greg

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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: ] #1583590
06/04/14 04:43 PM
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I had to give sponsor ship money back to a few sponsors because I can't make my promised dates. With out a doubt that looks bad on me. I had nothing to do with it. It was out of my control. And that just adds more fuel to the fire.




Just curious as to just how big this "sponsorship" was ? You didn't steal away John Forces Castrol deal did you ?




I wish! But if I had a big name or a big sponsor like that, this wouldn't be happening. IMO


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: jcc] #1583591
06/04/14 08:33 PM
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I'm going to try and make a funny here:

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I have heard lots of people having problem with porosity from foundry or foundries down in the LA area. I have friends that race fast VW’s 8-7 second air cooled deals and their parts are having the same problems with porosity (the foundry).




But aren't air cooled motors supposed to be porous?




Very porous after a 7 second quarter mile run.

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Biginchmopar] #1583592
06/05/14 02:28 AM
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You won't get a better block, Period. The wait is not fun but in the end it is well worth it.


No doubt the KB is a good piece......but for 99.9% of the people using these blocks, an INDY would serve just as well. INDY gets criticized for their customer service( I've never had issues), but they make a nice block that you can GET in a timely manner. I have used several in some fairly high HP stuff and never had an issue.

Monte

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Al_Alguire] #1583593
06/05/14 08:15 AM
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There are other options out there besides Indy.

Look here if you need something in a more timely manor, I think you will not be disappointed http://www.hpperformancellc.com/







Al, don't they do Hemi Blocks only.??



Chris..

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1583594
06/05/14 09:08 AM
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There are other options out there besides Indy.

Look here if you need something in a more timely manor, I think you will not be disappointed http://www.hpperformancellc.com/







Al, don't they do Hemi Blocks only.??

HP builds wedge blocks also..... Very nice looking piece!!!



Chris..



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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: boatracer572] #1583595
06/05/14 10:46 AM
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Has anyone been able to get a block from HP recently? I've been trying for well over a month to get an aluminum piece and while I can get in touch with them, every time the status is "next week".... but no dice! Very frustrating, I would like to use their stuff. Like others, running out of time for this year

Thx-Mike

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: VPofGreen] #1583596
06/05/14 04:54 PM
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Has anyone been able to get a block from HP recently? I've been trying for well over a month to get an aluminum piece and while I can get in touch with them, every time the status is "next week".... but no dice! Very frustrating, I would like to use their stuff. Like others, running out of time for this year

Thx-Mike




I'm very sorry to hear that. I feel your pain. I'm out for the year.


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583597
06/05/14 11:21 PM
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Just spoke to ken, the sleeves have been installed. Tomorrow it will be final honed and final inspection and then shipped tomorrow or Monday!

Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1583598
06/05/14 11:44 PM
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Just spoke to ken, the sleeves have been installed. Tomorrow it will be final honed and final inspection and then shipped tomorrow or Monday!






Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1583599
06/06/14 03:08 AM
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Awesome!!


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Al_Alguire] #1583600
06/06/14 07:16 AM
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some companies needs a penalty for not keeping their delivery time, and that can only be money involved, lets say that they should not promize better that 16 weeks, and for each week over, the prize will drop 5% from the total prize.
If you pay 50% in advance, you Will either get a block! or you will be compensated with a cheaper product.

A written contract by both parties.
We have customers that demand this type of contracts for us.

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