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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: Streetwize] #157773
11/27/08 10:46 PM
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It's not the "loss of Jobs" that upsets me as much as the Pirated Technology....Edelbrock spent a ton of R&D $$$$ for our sake to develop these heads at a still affordable price....Like much of what comes from overseas their R&D budget is to buy a set of Developed heads and digitally clone them.

Ask yourself....what incentive do companies like Edelbrock have to keep developing new products fopr us if within a year they are being mercilessly undercut in the marketplace by companies that are really nothing more than Industrial Pirates????

Rant over


sometimes ranting is o/k. i see your point.

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: tjmarcus1] #157774
11/27/08 10:50 PM
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The new definition of R & D; "Rob & Duplicate"

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF] #157775
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Just another reason why our country is going down a bad road buy the cheapest $hit we can and call it racing on a budget let the american worker who put all the r&d in the edlebrock head send it oversea and it comes back a race head on a budget just remember the job you cost a american work might be yours so keep buying oversea $hit

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF] #157776
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The new definition of R & D; "Rob & Duplicate"




LOL

but how do people get away with this stuff....


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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF] #157777
11/27/08 11:24 PM
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Not that it matters but I have been to Edle foundry. I would be very suprised if all the workers were legal.

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF] #157778
11/27/08 11:30 PM
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The heads are as good as you can get on a budget.Good for up to 6-700 horse and i will stand behind them all the way.I sell them and work with the guys form procomp very close.We are working on a spred port small block head that will change what we all think of big block vs small block in a mopar.If you could build a small block that can make 6-700 hp would you over using a big block.I think its why nobody builds that many small block cars because of the heads.We are fixing that as we speak,Just look for one bad azz sb head that will change the small block as we know it.And make that power adder motor pull even if not ahead of the FORDS AND CHEVYS in the usa.I will have something by the nats if not before

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: 68DARTTURBO] #157779
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[quoteWe are working on a spred port small block head that will change what we all think of big block vs small block in a mopar.If you could build a small block that can make 6-700 hp would you over using a big block.I think its why nobody builds that many small block cars because of the heads.We are fixing that as we speak,Just look for one bad azz sb head that will change the small block as we know it.




I think shady dell speed shop would have an answer for that comment....

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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac] #157780
11/27/08 11:49 PM
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Dont know him sorry

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: 68DARTTURBO] #157781
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I think its why nobody builds that many small block cars because of the heads.We are fixing that as we speak,Just look for one bad azz sb head that will change the small block as we know it.




well he has a website. lots of pics also to copy from to give to Chin and Chan


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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac] #157782
11/28/08 10:58 AM
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I don't know much about the heads, but I do know this: I have a Pro Comp distributor (made in Australia, not China) and...well, you get what you pay for. I also know that the company was sued by MSD for ripping of their design.
I've heard a few bad things about the heads (which I believe are made in China), but I don't have any first-hand experience. If you decide to buy a set, you'll pro'ly have to spend some money getting them right. But if you do the math, they may still be a deal.
If you're going to go Chinese, you may consider the 440 Source heads (NOT trying to ). The Edelbrock heads and the cast iron Indy SRs aren't much more money, and you may want to go that direction.
Good luck on the build.


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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: 1968RR] #157783
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: NTOLERANCE] #157784
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac] #157785
11/28/08 04:56 PM
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LOL

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: 65 Hemi] #157786
11/28/08 05:16 PM
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I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.20 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.




Does Pro-Comp sponsor anything or any racers?
If I was selling a product, I would put it on a few cars
and made sure I could back up what I say , like,
(a better casting than a lot of US stuff.)
Doesn't sound like to many people heard of them,
or would use them.


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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: BDS871Cuda] #157787
11/29/08 07:53 AM
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I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.20 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.




Does Pro-Comp sponsor anything or any racers?
If I was selling a product, I would put it on a few cars
and made sure I could back up what I say , like,
(a better casting than a lot of US stuff.)
Doesn't sound like to many people heard of them,
or would use them.




They are on a some cars and a lot of test has been done. As far as a better castings goes, I have seen over 50 sets CNC ported without being porous and they are a good hard casting.


Doug

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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac] #157788
11/29/08 10:29 AM
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The new definition of R & D; "Rob & Duplicate"




LOL

but how do people get away with this stuff....




they just do , china doesn't care about US patent laws , many comapnies have stuff made there and the places that make the stuff copy it to a degree undersell them right out the back door.

Northface skiwear is a prime example .

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: JohnRR] #157789
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They do it because the Chinese know we can apply ZERO political Leverage on them to stop it.

If we pi$$ them off about unfair trade practices all they have to do is HINT that they will stop buying (or even worse start Dumping) our billions of dollars of treasury bonds.

The USA is DEPENDENT on China, don't you get it?

If they (China as well as Japan and India) were to stop (or even slow down) buying up our debt our interest rates will SKYROCKET.....and soon, very soon, china will have strong enough of a domestic economy where they could "cut the cord" and be self sufficient (as we used to be in the 50's and 60's)...ask yourself what happens then??? We have no more leverage on China than a Crack Addict has on a Drug Lord.

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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: Cab_Burge] #157790
11/29/08 10:44 AM
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$725.00 for a cnc ported head


I wonder if there CNC machines cost $1000.00 or $10,000.00 US unlike a good 4 or 5 axis CNC machine made in USA that costs $100,000.00+ that will run 24 hrs.x 7 days a week for many years without loosing tolerances I ahev found that you usually get what you pay for in racing or high perforamnce parts, especially aluminum castings


Very few good 5 axis (or 3 for that matter)CNC machines made here in the states. The best come from japan where we actually steal their designs and use their machines to make our inferior ones. Case in point, Haas uses Mori Seiki's to manufacture their machines..

Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: dare_dude] #157791
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here's some interesting reading, comparing procomp heads to edelbrocks.
160+ hp difference???

Re: Pro Comp. Heads #157792
11/29/08 01:31 PM
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ive read that companies ship the product from china to australia, then call it australian made and ship it to the states. dont know if thats true or not though.

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