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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: floridian]
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02/06/14 03:14 PM
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What is your build? Hard to beat the RPM but your stock air cleaner will not fit under the hood w/o a drop base. Many options around, Street Dom, M1 dual plane, even an old CH4B will be better that the stock unit. You should be able to use your stock linkage on all of them. I've used CH4B, Torker, Torker II, and RPM w/ all the stock stuff.
If you grind the "Edelbrock" off the CH4B and paint it, most will think it's stock.
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: floridian]
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02/06/14 03:34 PM
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Looking for a new aluminum intake for the street on my 67 coronet, that comes with the mounts for my throttle cable/kickdown linkage.. Not looking to "race" just take off some weight and upgrade the looks some Any recommendations?? Brand and supplier??
No such intake exists for a big block Mopar.
the throttle cable and the TV/kickdown linkage is attached to a separate bracket that is held in place by a manifold to head bolt ... what you have now, especialy if it's working correctly, is what you want to use.
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/06/14 04:35 PM
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Looking for a new aluminum intake for the street on my 67 coronet, that comes with the mounts for my throttle cable/kickdown linkage.. Not looking to "race" just take off some weight and upgrade the looks some Any recommendations?? Brand and supplier??
No such intake exists for a big block Mopar.
the throttle cable and the TV/kickdown linkage is attached to a separate bracket that is held in place by a manifold to head bolt ... what you have now, especialy if it's working correctly, is what you want to use.
John are you saying that no aluminum aftermarket exists? or that what I have on my car now doesn't exist??
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/06/14 04:37 PM
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Looking for a new aluminum intake for the street on my 67 coronet, that comes with the mounts for my throttle cable/kickdown linkage.. Not looking to "race" just take off some weight and upgrade the looks some Any recommendations?? Brand and supplier??
No such intake exists for a big block Mopar.
the throttle cable and the TV/kickdown linkage is attached to a separate bracket that is held in place by a manifold to head bolt ... what you have now, especialy if it's working correctly, is what you want to use.
If it isn't going to see the high side of 5800 RPM there really isn't enough to gain with any single 4 aluminum intake to be worth the bother.
That being said most of the "normal" height ones on the market will work with the stuff you have. AndyF makes an adjustable throttle/kickdown bracket for the hi-rise ones that won't.
Kevin
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
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02/06/14 05:42 PM
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He means the brackets dont bolt to the intake
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
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02/06/14 07:02 PM
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Looking for a new aluminum intake for the street on my 67 coronet, that comes with the mounts for my throttle cable/kickdown linkage.. Not looking to "race" just take off some weight and upgrade the looks some Any recommendations?? Brand and supplier??
No such intake exists for a big block Mopar.
the throttle cable and the TV/kickdown linkage is attached to a separate bracket that is held in place by a manifold to head bolt ... what you have now, especialy if it's working correctly, is what you want to use.
If it isn't going to see the high side of 5800 RPM there really isn't enough to gain with any single 4 aluminum intake to be worth the bother.
That being said most of the "normal" height ones on the market will work with the stuff you have. AndyF makes an adjustable throttle/kickdown bracket for the hi-rise ones that won't.
Kevin
I beg to differ... I replaced the stock spredbore intake on my stock 78 MH 440/thats about as lopo as they get. it woke the engine up and has good torque all thru the RPM range.
I have a holley street dominator going on with a q-jet that should be a good gain for a stock lopo 440 also.
and the OFFENHAUSER 360* low rise/divided/open plenum is very torqy on it.. it is rated from 1500-8500 rpm.
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: floridian]
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02/06/14 07:53 PM
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Looking for a new aluminum intake for the street on my 67 coronet, that comes with the mounts for my throttle cable/kickdown linkage.. Not looking to "race" just take off some weight and upgrade the looks some Any recommendations?? Brand and supplier??
No such intake exists for a big block Mopar.
the throttle cable and the TV/kickdown linkage is attached to a separate bracket that is held in place by a manifold to head bolt ... what you have now, especialy if it's working correctly, is what you want to use.
John are you saying that no aluminum aftermarket exists? or that what I have on my car now doesn't exist??
in the last thread you started you were shown a picture of what your car is supposed to have and I asked you what intake and carb are presently on the car.
What is on you car right now that you want to change off???
Mopar NEVER bolted the kickdown linkage directly to the manifold on a big block in 1967 ... or any other year that I know of ... it pivots on a shaft that is on a bracket that is SEPARATE from the manifold .
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: floridian]
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02/06/14 10:20 PM
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I ain't used it myself but from numerous rave reviews (on here) I'd have no problem recommending the Eddy "performer rpm". It's a square bore/dual plane. As said it is very tall. The street dominator is a spread bore single plane with a real low profile & it gets pretty good reviews also. As said just reuse your bolt on brackets. Other good choices were mentioned. What do you have on there now? You mentioned weight so I'm assuming you have an OE iron one & in that case I'm sure you'll gain with an alum choice.
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: GomangoCuda]
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02/07/14 01:30 PM
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in the last thread you started you were shown a picture of what your car is supposed to have and I asked you what intake and carb are presently on the car.
What is on you car right now that you want to change off???
Mopar NEVER bolted the kickdown linkage directly to the manifold on a big block in 1967 ... or any other year that I know of ... it pivots on a shaft that is on a bracket that is SEPARATE from the manifold .
 Exactly. Since the OP hasn't shown or told us what he has now we can't really help him. He must have the wrong bracket if it won't work with any manifold. Maybe he has a bracket for a 6pk or hemi. Who knows might be a slant six or small block bracket. Somebody show him a pic of the correct bracket on a couple of common intakes.
I posted a picture of the bracket in his other thread .
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: GomangoCuda]
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02/07/14 01:56 PM
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Well, I keep forgetting to take a pic of my car intake/kickdown area. To be honest I havent looked at it for a couple of years, it was in storage in Oregon after I moved to Florida, and it just got her a week ago.. I have been packing this aluminum intake around and thought it would be nice to install it with a new edelbrock carb.
From what I can tell it is the stock intake that came on my car when it was built in late 66. If is the car in the pic. 67 R/T with its original 440/727. Everything else is original to the car in the engine compartment. Pretty sure it has a flat area that the cable/brackets sit on with a bracket that bolts to the intake manifold.
The Aluminum intake I have does not have a mounting/bolt hole on it for securing this bracket to. So I was wondering if I could purchase a new intake that had the mounting area for the bracket so I could install it on my car.. NON of the pics I see, for aluminum intakes for 440 engines, seem to have this THREADED BOLT hole that the bracket bolts into, for the cables..
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: scratchnfotraction]
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02/07/14 02:00 PM
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If it isn't going to see the high side of 5800 RPM there really isn't enough to gain with any single 4 aluminum intake to be worth the bother. That being said most of the "normal" height ones on the market will work with the stuff you have. AndyF makes an adjustable throttle/kickdown bracket for the hi-rise ones that won't. Kevin
I beg to differ... I replaced the stock spredbore intake on my stock 78 MH 440/thats about as lopo as they get. it woke the engine up and has good torque all thru the RPM range.
I have a holley street dominator going on with a q-jet that should be a good gain for a stock lopo 440 also.
and the OFFENHAUSER 360* low rise/divided/open plenum is very torqy on it.. it is rated from 1500-8500 rpm.
Don't care about any of this.. Just looking for a nicer look and weight reduction......
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: floridian]
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02/07/14 02:35 PM
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Well, I keep forgetting to take a pic of my car intake/kickdown area. To be honest I havent looked at it for a couple of years, it was in storage in Oregon after I moved to Florida, and it just got her a week ago.. I have been packing this aluminum intake around and thought it would be nice to install it with a new edelbrock carb.
From what I can tell it is the stock intake that came on my car when it was built in late 66. If is the car in the pic. 67 R/T with its original 440/727. Everything else is original to the car in the engine compartment. Pretty sure it has a flat area that the cable/brackets sit on with a bracket that bolts to the intake manifold.
The Aluminum intake I have does not have a mounting/bolt hole on it for securing this bracket to. So I was wondering if I could purchase a new intake that had the mounting area for the bracket so I could install it on my car.. NON of the pics I see, for aluminum intakes for 440 engines, seem to have this THREADED BOLT hole that the bracket bolts into, for the cables..
You need to go back and A) look at your car , and B) look at the picture I posted in the other thread ... here I posted it for you .... the original bracket for your car does NOT bolt to the intake , NEVER did , it is held in place by the rearmost bolt that holds the intake to the head the intake you currently have is not incorrect, you swap the intake and put the bracket back in the same spot.
If you are going to run an Ebrock carb you need to get the Mopar adapter bracket so your stock linkage will work correctly.
Also DO NOT under ANY circumstances buy the Performer Series 750 , it is a total POS ... Buy a Thunder series AVS.
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: JohnRR]
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02/07/14 02:49 PM
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Well, I keep forgetting to take a pic of my car intake/kickdown area. To be honest I havent looked at it for a couple of years, it was in storage in Oregon after I moved to Florida, and it just got her a week ago.. I have been packing this aluminum intake around and thought it would be nice to install it with a new edelbrock carb.
From what I can tell it is the stock intake that came on my car when it was built in late 66. If is the car in the pic. 67 R/T with its original 440/727. Everything else is original to the car in the engine compartment. Pretty sure it has a flat area that the cable/brackets sit on with a bracket that bolts to the intake manifold.
The Aluminum intake I have does not have a mounting/bolt hole on it for securing this bracket to. So I was wondering if I could purchase a new intake that had the mounting area for the bracket so I could install it on my car.. NON of the pics I see, for aluminum intakes for 440 engines, seem to have this THREADED BOLT hole that the bracket bolts into, for the cables..
You need to go back and A) look at your car , and B) look at the picture I posted in the other thread ... here I posted it for you .... the original bracket for your car does NOT bolt to the intake , NEVER did , it is held in place by the rearmost bolt that holds the intake to the head the intake you currently have is not incorrect, you swap the intake and put the bracket back in the same spot.
If you are going to run an Ebrock carb you need to get the Mopar adapter bracket so your stock linkage will work correctly.
Also DO NOT under ANY circumstances buy the Performer Series 750 , it is a total POS ... Buy a Thunder series AVS.
On top of this (edelbrock info) John but I do appreciate the info..
I answered this in my other post ( thanks) The bracket you show above I believe is correct ( yes I have the 3 piece linkage) but I think it bolts to the hole where the throttle cable bracket bolts on the intake manifold..
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: floridian]
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02/07/14 03:07 PM
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Well, I keep forgetting to take a pic of my car intake/kickdown area. To be honest I havent looked at it for a couple of years, it was in storage in Oregon after I moved to Florida, and it just got her a week ago.. I have been packing this aluminum intake around and thought it would be nice to install it with a new edelbrock carb.
From what I can tell it is the stock intake that came on my car when it was built in late 66. If is the car in the pic. 67 R/T with its original 440/727. Everything else is original to the car in the engine compartment. Pretty sure it has a flat area that the cable/brackets sit on with a bracket that bolts to the intake manifold.
The Aluminum intake I have does not have a mounting/bolt hole on it for securing this bracket to. So I was wondering if I could purchase a new intake that had the mounting area for the bracket so I could install it on my car.. NON of the pics I see, for aluminum intakes for 440 engines, seem to have this THREADED BOLT hole that the bracket bolts into, for the cables..
You need to go back and A) look at your car , and B) look at the picture I posted in the other thread ... here I posted it for you .... the original bracket for your car does NOT bolt to the intake , NEVER did , it is held in place by the rearmost bolt that holds the intake to the head the intake you currently have is not incorrect, you swap the intake and put the bracket back in the same spot.
If you are going to run an Ebrock carb you need to get the Mopar adapter bracket so your stock linkage will work correctly.
Also DO NOT under ANY circumstances buy the Performer Series 750 , it is a total POS ... Buy a Thunder series AVS.
On top of this (edelbrock info) John but I do appreciate the info..
I answered this in my other post ( thanks) The bracket you show above I believe is correct ( yes I have the 3 piece linkage) but I think it bolts to the hole where the throttle cable bracket bolts on the intake manifold..
You really need to go pop the hood on the car. Get phone or camera out and snap a picture and post it. I have never ever seen any linkage for kick down mount to the intake directly for 4 bbl. On the cross ram intake yes, but I am not sure how the kick down on those work, or even if they had a kick down, manual shift auto maybe?
One heads up though, if you have a bracket like pictured and you go aftermarket, some of the intakes have runners that wont allow the bracket to mount correctly under the intake bolts. You either have to modify or buy one of the adjustable pieces. Here is what I have fabbed up. I used a 71 bracket (I beleive). The two tabs that mount under the intake bolts were extended and the height was increased to have straight shot at linkage. I cut and wleded in some pices of metal that were close to the same thickness.
You can see the area where the lick down linkage would have been pinned to. Its the tab near the intake bolt. The older cars use the bracket that John RR posted.
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
[Re: floridian]
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02/07/14 03:41 PM
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The correct bracket (shown above by JohnRR) bolts on here. Where is yours?
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Re: Any good new aluminum 440 intakes for sale
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Does your car have the choke mechanism connected?
If not, is the choke well on the driver's side?
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