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Quietest exhaust possible for 440? #1571191
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Well, I decided to start driving my 440 powered charger after a few years, and I've quickly grown tired of the obnoxious exhaust.

Currently, its running factory manifolds, a 2.5inch full length exhaust with H pipe, two 40 series flowmasters, no resonators, and original exhaust tips. And its LOUD. I measured 92 decibels inside the cabin at a 60 mph cruise last week. That's ridiculous.

I'm totally over having a loud car. I want it to be as quiet and as comfortable to cruise in as a new Charger or Ram pickup. I don't want to be heard coming from a mile away anymore, and I don't want every teen in a mustang trying to race at every redlight just because of the exhaust anymore. And I want to be able to drive the car on road trips without getting fatigued from the noise. Not to mention the car is just too damn slow to justify being so stupidly loud. I'm so over it.

So guys, any recommended setups? I'm all ears. Thanks.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571192
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1971 Imperial mufflers used to be highly touted for your purposes. Quiet without too much effect on power.

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'69 300 Convertible
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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571193
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Any decent turbo muffler should be decently quiet. The quietest though? Some old reverse flow if anyone still makes them.

Walker 21848 used to be the direct replacement for 440 cars, and very quiet. I don't think they make them any more though.


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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571194
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Lose the flowmasters

Also you need to be realistic , the only way that car will ever be as quiet as a new charger or ram is if it stays parked in your garage and you never start it ...

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JohnRR] #1571195
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Lose the flowmasters

Also you need to be realistic , the only way that car will ever be as quiet as a new charger or ram is if it stays parked in your garage and you never start it ...




Haha, understood. Then lets say I want to get it as close as I can to them. Quiet enough at cruising speed where a conversation could be had in the cabin without yelling, or quiet enough that my ears don't ring after a 4 hour drive.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571196
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Lose the flowmasters

Also you need to be realistic , the only way that car will ever be as quiet as a new charger or ram is if it stays parked in your garage and you never start it ...




Haha, understood. Then lets say I want to get it as close as I can to them. Quiet enough at cruising speed where a conversation could be had in the cabin without yelling, or quiet enough that my ears don't ring after a 4 hour drive.




Once you quiet down the exhaust you will hear everything else it was drowning out , rattles under the dash , in the doors , the trunk , and the big one ROAD NOISE ...

Long case Dyno max turbo muffler , a bullet glasspack type muffler as a resonator ... I'm pretty sure Accutate LTD. sells 2.5" stock looking resonator tail pipes ... and replace the H with an X pipe .

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JohnRR] #1571197
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maybe a muffler something like this-

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-17748/overview/

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: 65rbdodge] #1571198
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Why not just install a pair of walker stock type mufflers.

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JohnRR is right.....
Dynomax 17748 or 17749, whichever fits better, X-pipe and resonators should get it under control.

R

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: 65rbdodge] #1571200
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maybe a muffler something like this-

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-17748/overview/





Then get some sound reducing material and cover under the package tray, under the back seat and trunk divider.

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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571201
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An insulated trunk divider, dyna-mat, and some muffler research...


I've got aluminized flow-masters...

Still dig the 'sound' after all these years...

Cabin 'noise' is not a problem...

The noise is outside, where it belongs...

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: stumpy] #1571202
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Why not just install a pair of walker stock type mufflers.




I was thinking the same thing.. Stock hemi mufflers.. Almost ran those in mine until Accurate talked me into their "louder" hemi muffler. Should say I am very happy with also...

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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: floridian] #1571203
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Good info guys, thanks for the input.

I actually found a few other forums of other makes recommending the same turbo mufflers, they seem reasonably priced too.

Another question, how loud are the stock hemi mufflers? I've never heard them I'm person. Quieter (but more restrictive) than the dynomaxes I assume? Would they be comparable to, say a stock, 80's GM truck in noise level?

Also, the floor and lower firewall of the car are already dynamatted. However, I still have to make (and insulate) the trunk divider.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571204
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Like a previous poster said, the Walker Quiet Flow 21848 is no longer available. The replacement is a Sound FX 18230. This muffler is in the catalog for the B-Body 440 powered cars. I just picked up a pair for my Newport. They are 2.25" in/out, but they neck down inside the muffler to about 1.75". I'm not too keen on the restriction, so you may want to go with the Dynomax Hemi mufflers.

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Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JRs_Charger] #1571205
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On my challenger I had mufflers and resonators and I thought it was super quiet. Too quiet in fact as I don't plan on going back with it.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: moparmojo] #1571206
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quiet is such a subjective thing.
i like the sound of an unsilenced air cleaner and that
is usually not possible with a modern performance exhaust.

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: 3hundred] #1571207
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Quote:

1971 Imperial mufflers used to be highly touted for your purposes. Quiet without too much effect on power.

Robert




I bought some Walker Quiet Flow SS mufflers for the Convertible. They are supposed to fit a Imperial.
I am going to use them to replace the Super Turbo mufflers that came with the TTI exhaust system, but it is not going to be as easy as I thought. The Imperial sized mufflers are longer than the Super Turbo mufflers, and for them to sit up in the recessed floor pan area, the rear hanger will need to be moved back some and the in and out pipe will be shortened. I am going to weld collector flanges to the muffler outlet and tailpipe for two reasons, the pipes need to be pretty short for the longer muffler, and it will make removing the exhaust easier for transmission service.
If the weather is not too bad, and I'm not working weekends I should have it done in a few weeks. This week I'm rebuilding the Dana 60 with 3.54:1 gears. Anyone need some 4.10:1 gears

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: JohnRR] #1571208
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Lose the flowmasters

Also you need to be realistic , the only way that car will ever be as quiet as a new charger or ram is if it stays parked in your garage and you never start it ...




Incorrect sir. My stock 66 Coronet 440 383-4 car has stock style dual exhaust with direct replacement mufflers and you can't hear it idling next to a 3G HEMI. With all of the fans, buzzing, clicking, etc. that comes from new cars my stocker sounds like a Swiss watch. To be honest I was amazed to find this out. IMO the wind noise is a bigger deal in these old cars than exhaust note if the exhaust is stock.

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Quote:

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Lose the flowmasters

Also you need to be realistic , the only way that car will ever be as quiet as a new charger or ram is if it stays parked in your garage and you never start it ...




Incorrect sir. My stock 66 Coronet 440 383-4 car has stock style dual exhaust with direct replacement mufflers and you can't hear it idling next to a 3G HEMI. With all of the fans, buzzing, clicking, etc. that comes from new cars my stocker sounds like a Swiss watch. To be honest I was amazed to find this out. IMO the wind noise is a bigger deal in these old cars than exhaust note if the exhaust is stock.




and my followup ...

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Once you quiet down the exhaust you will hear everything else it was drowning out , rattles under the dash , in the doors , the trunk , and the big one ROAD NOISE ...

Long case Dyno max turbo muffler , a bullet glasspack type muffler as a resonator ... I'm pretty sure Accutate LTD. sells 2.5" stock looking resonator tail pipes ... and replace the H with an X pipe .




yes stock replacement, flow restricting mufflers will make it as quiet as a /6 dart

Re: Quietest exhaust possible for 440? [Re: floridian] #1571210
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I was thinking the same thing.. Stock hemi mufflers.. Almost ran those in mine until Accurate talked me into their "louder" hemi muffler. Should say I am very happy with also...




I have had both with great results. The regular Hemi muffler was too quiet for me. The High Flow Hemi muffler was just right.


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