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Questions going from M1 to Victor... #15673
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First, does anyone have any track/power results in going from one to the other?? Second, what is the height difference between the two?

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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: TonyS451] #15674
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Tony the wagon is fast enough

Be careful of the racing gremlins next thing you know you will be putting a cage in it and putting some 15" wide tires under it

Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: Dartman928] #15675
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When the 440 Victor first came out, I did a same day, back to back test changing nothing but the manifold. I had a single plane M-1 with a 1" spacer and swapped it for the Victor with no spacer. I drop almost .200 in et and pick up almost 2 mph. Every car will be different though.

Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: TonyS451] #15676
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i am going to be trying a 440 victor againts my m1-4500 intake.that is if i can get a good one from summit.the frist one i got had some casting flaws. on the out side that i did not care for.tonys451 you have a stroker low deck though right? so i do not know if my 440 shoot out will work for you.allso there was a post awhile back about porting the 440 victor for more power.can some body tell me were they need ported. and does anybody have any pixs.tony sorry if i hijacked your post. and good luck on your car.mopar65


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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: TonyS451] #15677
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Rob - I'm trying, but whats a little old intake gonna do anyhow???

Greg - Do you recall the height difference between the two? I would be looking the 383/400 intake. BTW, 2 tenths and 2 mph is a pretty awesome improvement!

Mopar65 - I remember reading about Victor intake mods as well... It's been a while though. Good luck with your swap and let us know how it works for you.

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I drop almost .200 in et and pick up almost 2 mph.




Greg, was that 2 tenths or 2 haundredths?


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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: mopar65] #15679
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there was a post awhile back about porting the 440 victor for more power.can some body tell me were they need ported.




If you look down in the plenum there is a bulge in all four corners. They are grinding those out and blending that part of the plenum into the roof of the runners. There were some good pics posted here a few months ago. Maybe that person will repost them. If they don't show up soon I'll find them and put them up.


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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: GomangoCuda] #15680
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I am going to be running a victor on a 500 with a roller and eddys.. I am not trying to steal the thread but I sure would like to see those pics too!! Thanks, Jim

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.200 is two tenths.

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2 tenths and almost 2 mph i think it would be worth switching.


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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: joedust451] #15683
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I tried doing a search on that post and couldn't find it. but yea it's pretty simple just blend the wings out of the corners. Mine was a pretty gross casting too.

Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: RemCharger] #15684
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I found pics from 2 different threads, about 10 months apart. I don't know who posted these but they almost look like they could be pics of the same intake.

Feb 2004 - Before.


Feb 2004 - After.


Dec 2004 - Before.


Dec 2004 - After.


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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: GomangoCuda] #15685
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it would be nice to know what if any difference the clean up made, sometimes what you think should work doesn't.

Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: jamesc] #15686
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gomangocuda thanks for the pixs. those are what i need to see.thanks. i found a moparts member to port the victor for me.but he can not do it untill the end of july. so i might throw the victor on. out of the box and see how it does.allso i bought 2 inch moroso carburetor adapter. so i can run my dominator on the victor.on the adapter the inside is as cast. should i smooth the inside or leave it like it is?
i plan on going to the track in about two weeks.
jamesc if i remember right on the last post.it was said after they ported the victor intake. it was worth 10-15 horsepower.but i am probly wrong though.mopoar65


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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: TonyS451] #15687
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Quote:

Second, what is the height difference between the two?


The height of the MP M1 low deck intake was in the Tech Archives the last time I looked, and Edelbrock has the height of all their manifolds in their catalog/website.

BB Intakes Pic Album (Tech Archive)
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Re: Questions going from M1 to Victor... [Re: 440Jim] #15688
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This is my Victor with Dominator adapter. The black-lined areas will be reduced.

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Different Angle

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This is my Victor with Dominator adapter. The black-lined areas will be reduced.




Bob, what type of gain do you expect to see going to the victor with your combo?

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Thanks everyone for the input, and thanks 440Jim for the measurements. I measured the top of my aircleaner last night and found just over 1/2" clearance with a play-dough test. According to the dimensions of both intakes, there is a height difference of 1 1/8". I'm running a drop base aircleaner and short 2 1/2" element as it is, so looks like I'm sticking with my M1 for now.


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Your car would look great with a SS scoop on it!
The only reason the scoop is on my car is so the manifold fits.


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