Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
[Re: BradH]
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Glad i saved all my 750 lift roller cams from the 1970's.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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First I've heard this. Current Summit pricing does not reflect this.... Perhaps someone quoted you cam and lifters? Maybe Chase will see this and confirm.
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
[Re: sasquatch]
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Not true. I ordered some this AM and same price as always. SOME specialty cores are going up but not that much. COMP has had no recent cost increases to speak of. Todd
Specialty cam and 55mm ones got the increase is what I was told Not the off shelf ones
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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First I've heard this.
Current Summit pricing does not reflect this....
Perhaps someone quoted you cam and lifters?
Maybe Chase will see this and confirm.
Crane had their first steel cam price increase in seven years last July, roughly ten percent on standard journal type cams. Iron gear, larger journal, 9310, and tool steel cams certainly cost more. Regards, Chase
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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First I've heard this.
Current Summit pricing does not reflect this....
Perhaps someone quoted you cam and lifters?
Maybe Chase will see this and confirm.
Crane had their first steel cam price increase in seven years last July, roughly ten percent on standard journal type cams. Iron gear, larger journal, 9310, and tool steel cams certainly cost more. Regards, Chase
And there you have it. Can't believe a $395.00 comp cam is going to cost me $813.00
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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Try Isky.............I thaught they ground their own cams on their own cores.............
Blanks are forged or cast, not ground. Blanks are like anything else though, not as cheap as they used to be, so just depends on how many blanks "X" company has on hand. Special firing orders, like an LS firing order, require a custom blank, so those are always high. And certain grinds, needed for certain motors, just physically won't fit on older design blanks. So in that case, you are looking at a custom blank or a billet cam. Either of those will set you back a grand
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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Try Isky.............I thaught they ground their own cams on their own cores.............
Blanks are forged or cast, not ground. Blanks are like anything else though, not as cheap as they used to be, so just depends on how many blanks "X" company has on hand. Special firing orders, like an LS firing order, require a custom blank, so those are always high. And certain grinds, needed for certain motors, just physically won't fit on older design blanks. So in that case, you are looking at a custom blank or a billet cam. Either of those will set you back a grand
Monte
Case in point....55mm, 2347 swap, LSM billet, custom grind, $700
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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Try Isky.............I thaught they ground their own cams on their own cores.............
Blanks are forged or cast, not ground. Blanks are like anything else though, not as cheap as they used to be, so just depends on how many blanks "X" company has on hand. Special firing orders, like an LS firing order, require a custom blank, so those are always high. And certain grinds, needed for certain motors, just physically won't fit on older design blanks. So in that case, you are looking at a custom blank or a billet cam. Either of those will set you back a grand
Good quality roller blanks are machined from steel bar stock. There are many choices of materials, depending on the usage. Regards, Chase Monte
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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Try Isky.............I thaught they ground their own cams on their own cores.............
Blanks are forged or cast, not ground. Blanks are like anything else though, not as cheap as they used to be, so just depends on how many blanks "X" company has on hand. Special firing orders, like an LS firing order, require a custom blank, so those are always high. And certain grinds, needed for certain motors, just physically won't fit on older design blanks. So in that case, you are looking at a custom blank or a billet cam. Either of those will set you back a grand
Good quality roller blanks are machined from steel bar stock. There are many choices of materials, depending on the usage. Regards, Chase Monte
I was speaking of blanks in general as being forged or cast.......While it is true that roller blanks are machined from steel bar stock, there are still "standard" blanks, correct? And when you deviate from this "standard" in lobe selection and it requires a "custom" blank, things get pricey.
I know in my own dealings with BBM nitrous stuff, the lobes I WANT, do NOT fit on the standard blanks that everybody has and we need a custom blank.
Monte
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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Try Isky.............I thaught they ground their own cams on their own cores.............
Blanks are forged or cast, not ground. Blanks are like anything else though, not as cheap as they used to be, so just depends on how many blanks "X" company has on hand. Special firing orders, like an LS firing order, require a custom blank, so those are always high. And certain grinds, needed for certain motors, just physically won't fit on older design blanks. So in that case, you are looking at a custom blank or a billet cam. Either of those will set you back a grand
Good quality roller blanks are machined from steel bar stock. There are many choices of materials, depending on the usage. Regards, Chase Monte
I was speaking of blanks in general as being forged or cast.......While it is true that roller blanks are machined from steel bar stock, there are still "standard" blanks, correct? And when you deviate from this "standard" in lobe selection and it requires a "custom" blank, things get pricey.
I know in my own dealings with BBM nitrous stuff, the lobes I WANT, do NOT fit on the standard blanks that everybody has and we need a custom blank.
Monte
That's exactly correct Monty. But now the old stock is gone for the custom lobe cams and those have the sticker shock on them. I'm getting ready to hold my ankles on my invoice from comp cams on my new ground cam with new cores. Stay tuned
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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Wrong- I have one 54mm cam that has been reground twice and another one that is going in for it's second regrind. Depends on who you deal with.
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some cam maker(won't tell) told me that a roller can't be reground.
Anybody will do anything for a dollar i guess but is it correct, what problems will arise? I seem to remember something about surface hardness. I don't know either, just going on what i was told. The guy has been in business since dirt was made.
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
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I was also told that usually they cant be or shouldnt be reground due to surface hardness. Not saying who, but a respected builder.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Old Cam cores gone and new pricing..ouch
[Re: BradH]
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I like Oregon Cams. http://www.oregoncamshaft.com/
Funny... Oregon Cams is across the river in Vancouver, Washington.
Having lived & worked in Portland, OR, and Vancouver, WA, many years ago, I just found that amusing.
Story I heard was he moved to WA for tax reasons and/or because Portland filled up with weird liberal types who hate small business people. But yes, OR Cams is in Washington.
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