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How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model #156056
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1969 GTX. How do you determin if car is a coupe or a 2 door sedan model?

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model [Re: frank] #156057
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1969 GTX. How do you determin if car is a coupe or a 2 door sedan model?





Any 69 GTX with a roof will be a hardrop, the rear windows will roll down and no post


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Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model [Re: frank] #156058
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3RD AND 4th digits of the vin
21 is a 2 dr sedan
23 is a 2 dr hardtop
27 is a convertible
29 is a 2dr sports hardtop(baracuda)
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A coupe and a sedan are generally considered to be the same thing.

I think you may be thinking of a 2 door hard top as compared to a 2 door sedan? If so, as mentioned above, the VIN will tell you which one is which.

RL21 = R:Plymouth L: Low Line 21:2 door Sedan
RS23 = R:Plymouth S: Special 23:2 door Hard Top

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Thanks. I'm trying to order parts from year one and they list coup and sedan. Do you know if year one considers a hardtop a coupe?

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model [Re: frank] #156061
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Just tell them if your car has a pillar post between the front and rear side glass or not. All Sedans had them.

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Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model [Re: frank] #156063
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Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows


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Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows




The rear windows in my 75 Coronet hardtop, WH23 didn't roll down.

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I''m still confused Are coupes/sedan the same(both have a post)


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It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!


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Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model [Re: frank] #156067
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The way it was. Later on, when the so-called hardtop convertible was marketed, the two-door would be called a "sport coupe". "Sedans" would have pillars between the doors, or doors and rear windows. There were four door hardtops too. I had a '69 Ford LTD 4 dr hardtop. Roll all of the windows down, and it was wide open on each side. http://www.ssb7.net/users//26142/69fordltd4door.jpg


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Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model [Re: itali83] #156068
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Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows





"Post coupe" is usually what I hear, and have said myself coupe for cars with a post for years. Windows pop out. RM21

Hardtop has no pillar, roll down windows. RM23
Have seen/heard it called pillarless hardtop.

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Can't get any easier than this. Sedan = pop out rear windows Hardtop/coupe = roll down rear windows





"Post coupe" is usually what I hear, and have said myself coupe for cars with a post for years. Windows pop out. RM21

Hardtop has no pillar, roll down windows. RM23
Have seen/heard it called pillarless hardtop.



I said this in response to him having a '69 B-body. I wasn't clear about that. I know 68-69 B-bodys hardtop= roll down rear windows and sedan= post with popout windows.


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That is what I'm talking about also, a '69.

Re: How to tell if car is coupe or 2 door sedan model [Re: Rhinodart] #156071
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It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!






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Growing up as a kid (I'm old) a 2 door with no post was a hardtop, 2 door with a post a coupe, 4 door with a post a sedan. 4 doors without a post was cool. Most everyone I know goes by this too.


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Post = sedan
roll all the windows sown and you can sweep your arm from the windshield to the rear roof post = hardtop.
The problem is that the automakers built different cars over the years, so the rules got blurred.
In your specific case (1969 B body), the VIN will tell you what you have and will be easier to pass along to year one for ordering.

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Growing up as a kid (I'm old) a 2 door with no post was a hardtop, 2 door with a post a coupe, 4 door with a post a sedan. 4 doors without a post was cool. Most everyone I know goes by this too.




I agree with this. Also the 4 door without a post can obviously be called a hardtop, or a "4 door hardtop" An example would be a Buick Electra 225.

Only problem is that there is no "2 door sedan" in the above definition, which many people would say in a post car, if the rear 1/4 windows roll down its a sedan, if they don't (or they just pop out) like a Volare/Aspen its a coupe, but thats kind of a fine distinction.

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It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!









Not correct.... A hardtop has no B-Pillar. A Coupe has a B-Pillar (post).

The line between a 2-dr sedan (post) and a coupe gets blurry, I tend to differetiate between posts & coupes as: A coupe has almost no rear window (E body cudas & Challengers are coupes), while a post has a roll down or pop out, larger rear window (roadrunner)

One things for sure, there is no hard fast rule with coupes vs. posts vs. 2-dr Sedans. These are all basically the same.


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It depends on the manufaturer, but I have always thought a sedan and a post car were the same thing, and a hardtop and a coupe were the same!









thats how Ive always been told. coupes were hardtops (no post). furthermore, coupes had smaller interiors than sedans. Sedans were big while coupes were small (think of the coupes in american graffiti- they had small cramped interiors)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9

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Coupés are often hardtopped sports cars or sporty variants of sedan (also known as saloon — see American and British English spelling differences) body styles, with doors commonly reduced from 4 to 2, and a close-coupled interior (i.e. the rear seat placed further forward than in a standard sedan) offering either two seats or 2+2 seating (space for two passengers in the front and two occasional passengers or children in the rear).

Alternatively, a coupé is distinguished from a two-door sedan by the lack of a "B" pillar to support the roof. Sedans have an "A" pillar forward at the windscreen, a "B" pillar aft of the door, and a "C" pillar defining the aftermost roof support at the rear window. Thus with all side-windows down, a coupé would appear windowless from the "A" to the "C" pillars. These fixed-roof models are described as a hardtop. Targa top models are a variation on the convertible design.




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http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-coupe-and-a-sedan.htm

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sedan has little to do with doors and are made clear by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), which standardizes definitions of the different types of cars on the market. Measurements of a coupe and a sedan are as follows:


Coupe equals less than 33 cubic feet (.934 cubic m). Sedan is equal to or greater than 33 cubic feet.



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Another Angle: 1967 Belvedere II Hard Top

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