Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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Yes i did flip them side for side. I've now cut the bolts off the bottom mounts, inset them into new brackets and welded them onto the existing ones. I will finish them off tomorrow with a small gusset on each one and that should give me 2" both sides. Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
[Re: Porter67]
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03/22/15 10:13 PM
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Mid 70-s are a mess oem, I have the rancho 5 way or whatever came with the caltracks and I know the QA1 double adjust ones will fit vertically.
Anyone see any issues if I went this route with these mounts from jegs?
I did read this all the way through where hemi? asked about leaf spring cars.
I dont mind welding on the Dana as ive got to pull it anyway. Im just wondering if being in the position would throw anything off??????
No it wont.. vertical works great for drag racing.. they are in the applied load direction.. we put them on a angle for cornering reasons.. that would be the applied load direction in corners
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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03/31/15 01:35 PM
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I understand how vertical mounts work better on a drag car. What I'm having trouble getting my (little) mind around is the in front of the axle mount. On the hit the housing is doing two things, it's trying to rotate the front up and also separate from the body. with the shock on the back side this motion is all in the same direction, shock extension. Now with the shock in the front, the axle is trying to rotate up (compress the shock) and at the same time separate from the body (extend the shock). I can't see a single adjustable shock working at all with it mounted in the front. Someone please correct me if my reasoning is wrong.
Thats if you still use a leaf spring.. most that move the shock to the front are using ladder bars or a 4-link set up.... with a coil over the spring has to be stronger to hold the higher weight on it due to the percentage that the shock moved forward... the valving in the shock needs to be adjusted also for the same percentage... so maybe you can get lucky on the valving.. but thats just a guess
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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03/31/15 04:35 PM
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I understand how vertical mounts work better on a drag car. What I'm having trouble getting my (little) mind around is the in front of the axle mount. On the hit the housing is doing two things, it's trying to rotate the front up and also separate from the body. with the shock on the back side this motion is all in the same direction, shock extension. Now with the shock in the front, the axle is trying to rotate up (compress the shock) and at the same time separate from the body (extend the shock). I can't see a single adjustable shock working at all with it mounted in the front. Someone please correct me if my reasoning is wrong.
Thats if you still use a leaf spring.. most that move the shock to the front are using ladder bars or a 4-link set up.... with a coil over the spring has to be stronger to hold the higher weight on it due to the percentage that the shock moved forward... the valving in the shock needs to be adjusted also for the same percentage... so maybe you can get lucky on the valving.. but thats just a guess
Yes Mike I was referring to leaf spring cars, should've mentioned that in my post.
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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03/31/15 04:52 PM
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I just did a spring relocation and mini tub on my valiant. I used the complete cal trac setup and was contemplating the stock shock placement or vertical. This would be a track only car
For a track only car a vertical shock is far better due to the applied load angles... the shocks laying over works great for cornering.. that would be the applied load direction with a leaf spring where the body can roll... with a ladder bar.. the bars take the roll (or the lack of it)... a 4-link can have roll with out a anti roll bar
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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Ok I will start fabricating for vertical mounts, I have to decide front or rear of housing.
Standard shocks are developed for the rear of the diff.. just something to think about
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