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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: one bad fish] #1555841
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555842
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The stock mount for the SS springs.




Did you flip them side to side to get in front of axle?


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555843
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Yes i did flip them side for side. I've now cut the bolts off the bottom mounts, inset them into new brackets and welded them onto the existing ones. I will finish them off tomorrow with a small gusset on each one and that should give me 2" both sides.
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555844
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Mid 70-s are a mess oem, I have the rancho 5 way or whatever came with the caltracks and I know the QA1 double adjust ones will fit vertically.

Anyone see any issues if I went this route with these mounts from jegs?

I did read this all the way through where hemi? asked about leaf spring cars.

I dont mind welding on the Dana as ive got to pull it anyway. Im just wondering if being in the position would throw anything off??????

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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: Porter67] #1555845
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Crazy oem angle. Looking at this pic I might be able to get them without the brackets. See what happens with too many projects and getting too old to remember

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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: Porter67] #1555846
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Mid 70-s are a mess oem, I have the rancho 5 way or whatever came with the caltracks and I know the QA1 double adjust ones will fit vertically.

Anyone see any issues if I went this route with these mounts from jegs?

I did read this all the way through where hemi? asked about leaf spring cars.

I dont mind welding on the Dana as ive got to pull it anyway. Im just wondering if being in the position would throw anything off??????




No it wont.. vertical works great for drag racing..
they are in the applied load direction.. we put them
on a angle for cornering reasons.. that would be the
applied load direction in corners

Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1555847
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Any updates on this?
Thumperdart did you get anything done on your car?

Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: RV2] #1555848
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I understand how vertical mounts work better on a drag car. What I'm having trouble getting my (little) mind around is the in front of the axle mount. On the hit the housing is doing two things, it's trying to rotate the front up and also separate from the body. with the shock on the back side this motion is all in the same direction, shock extension. Now with the shock in the front, the axle is trying to rotate up (compress the shock) and at the same time separate from the body (extend the shock). I can't see a single adjustable shock working at all with it mounted in the front. Someone please correct me if my reasoning is wrong.

Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: RV2] #1555849
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Any updates on this?
Thumperdart did you get anything done on your car?




I mounted mine almost straight up and down and I moved em outboard from the stock location but still using the stock bolt going through the same sheet metal in the trunk.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: justinp61] #1555850
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I understand how vertical mounts work better on a drag car. What I'm having trouble getting my (little) mind around is the in front of the axle mount. On the hit the housing is doing two things, it's trying to rotate the front up and also separate from the body. with the shock on the back side this motion is all in the same direction, shock extension. Now with the shock in the front, the axle is trying to rotate up (compress the shock) and at the same time separate from the body (extend the shock). I can't see a single adjustable shock working at all with it mounted in the front. Someone please correct me if my reasoning is wrong.




Thats if you still use a leaf spring.. most that move
the shock to the front are using ladder bars or a
4-link set up.... with a coil over the spring has
to be stronger to hold the higher weight on it due
to the percentage that the shock moved forward... the
valving in the shock needs to be adjusted also for the
same percentage... so maybe you can get lucky on the
valving.. but thats just a guess

Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: Thumperdart] #1555851
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Thumperdart do you have any pics?

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So running the shock up front with a leaf spring combo would gain no advantage?

Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: RV2] #1555853
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Thumperdart do you have any pics?






A friend took some last week but hasn't posted em yet so maybe son.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: RV2] #1555854
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So running the shock up front with a leaf spring combo would gain no advantage?




Stock leafs or superstock springs probably not. But do a search on bullet or few other sites, you will see the really fast leaf cars with mono's and caltracks or smith bars are running them in front.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: Quickrunner] #1555855
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I just did a spring relocation and mini tub on my valiant.
I used the complete cal trac setup and was contemplating the stock shock placement or vertical.
This would be a track only car

Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1555856
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I understand how vertical mounts work better on a drag car. What I'm having trouble getting my (little) mind around is the in front of the axle mount. On the hit the housing is doing two things, it's trying to rotate the front up and also separate from the body. with the shock on the back side this motion is all in the same direction, shock extension. Now with the shock in the front, the axle is trying to rotate up (compress the shock) and at the same time separate from the body (extend the shock). I can't see a single adjustable shock working at all with it mounted in the front. Someone please correct me if my reasoning is wrong.




Thats if you still use a leaf spring.. most that move
the shock to the front are using ladder bars or a
4-link set up.... with a coil over the spring has
to be stronger to hold the higher weight on it due
to the percentage that the shock moved forward... the
valving in the shock needs to be adjusted also for the
same percentage... so maybe you can get lucky on the
valving.. but thats just a guess





Yes Mike I was referring to leaf spring cars, should've mentioned that in my post.

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I just did a spring relocation and mini tub on my valiant.
I used the complete cal trac setup and was contemplating the stock shock placement or vertical.
This would be a track only car




For a track only car a vertical shock is far better
due to the applied load angles... the shocks laying
over works great for cornering.. that would be the
applied load direction with a leaf spring where the
body can roll... with a ladder bar.. the bars take
the roll (or the lack of it)... a 4-link can have
roll with out a anti roll bar

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Ok I will start fabricating for vertical mounts, I have to decide front or rear of housing.

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Ok I will start fabricating for vertical mounts, I have to decide front or rear of housing.




Standard shocks are developed for the rear of the diff..
just something to think about

Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1555860
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Ok I will start fabricating for vertical mounts, I have to decide front or rear of housing.




Standard shocks are developed for the rear of the diff..
just something to think about





Just wondering out loud, if it's such a big difference in valving from front to back of the rear. On a truck where they mount them on both sides of the rear they don't spec a shock for either side.


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