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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555821
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The front shock to eliminate the bushin.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555822
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555823
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As crazy as it sounds, Travis at Calvert Racing doesn`t get the "in ft. of axle" deal and said that`s news to him.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555824
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I am sure you saw gups pic of his rear suspension, so I am by no means the inventor of this idea. His car has been that way as long as I have know it. I just copy other people good ideas.lol


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555825
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I hear ya man and do the same thing sometimes but for now I`m leaving the shocks and ft. mount alone and just doin shackles and slicks and lettin it ride. Just for giggles you should call Calvert and talk to Travis and see his perspective since I can`t remember everything he said................


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: Thumperdart] #1555826
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There have been some posts on the Bullet from some of the heavy hitters in the small tire leaf spring classes. These guys had run the shock behind, or in front of the housing. Their shock data was smoother with the shock mounted in the front (rear mounted the graph would spike) and the car was quicket and more consistant.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: LA360] #1555827
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I`m no expert and just repeating what Travis said and one thing I remember was w/the shock in back you`re controlling more of the rear of the car and w/it in ft. it`s controlling some of the ft. of the car..........


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: Thumperdart] #1555828
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The car is being lifted at the same point which is
the front of the spring at the bolt hole... with a shock
on the rear it will see a farther travel than if its
in front.... its a matter of what the shock likes
that makes the difference... its pushing oil through
a set of holes... now does it like the pressure of
the oil to be higher(with the shock in the rear) or
with the pressure to be lower(with the shock in front)..
the higher and lower pressure is from the distance
that the piston travels in the shock(its mounted on
the shaft)... not all shocks are equal.. when I took
the Dave chassis seminar he spoke alot on shocks and
how some react to different inputs

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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555829
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Quote:

The caltrac controls rotation, you want to be on front because that is the part of the spring that dictates traction. It reacts faster when you are on the front.




I thought the post was about vertical mounted shocks. My thoughts are more along the line of controlling the spring in a leaf spring application (no snubber no bars) but I can still see some possible benifit with a caltrac car, especially a radial car where you are trying to dampin the initial hit on the tire. How much negative pinion angle does caltrac recommend?


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: dannysbee] #1555830
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Travis likes between 2-4 degrees nose down.................Now I`m a 7 w/all of the changes so................


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: Thumperdart] #1555831
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I will fit mine in front of the axle because it's mounted an inch further back, so it will straighten the shocks up both ways. It's got to be at least 6" forward with the spring clamps reversed.
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555832
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I have fitted my shocks the same as 67 dart GT and at rest there's only 3/4" compression, that is without me.
I have only tacked the upper plates at the moment, so i can break the welds but the trunk floor curves down near the top of the shocks so either i need to cut the floor and remake that section, hammer it upwards,change my 1-1/2 lowering blocks for 2" ones, or cut the bottom bolt off the plate and fab something onto it to make it hang lower.
Any suggestions ?


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best 60ft 1.36
Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555833
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Get shorter shocks.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555834
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They are afco doubles, i'm not buying another set.
How much travel have you got at rest ?
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best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555835
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They are afco doubles, i'm not buying another set.
How much travel have you got at rest ?
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I have the 2" recommended compression at rest myself......................


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555836
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I have two inches also.


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555837
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Pushing the tube up into the chassis doesn't increase the height much, maybe my afcos were a little short in the first place.
I'll probably lower the bottom mount an inch.
Mick


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best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555838
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What are you using for lower mount?


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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1555839
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The stock mount for the SS springs.


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best 60ft 1.36
Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS................. [Re: deaks] #1555840
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