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B-body disk conversion question- brake hoses
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Hi-
I'm doing the B-body disk conversion on my '69 Charger R/T using spindles from a '77 Diplomat. Since my suspension (with the exception of the conversion, of course) is factory stock- meaning I have the '69 front sway bar configuration - I understand that I'm not going to be able to mount the spindles so the calipers are towards the front as they will interfere with the sway bar mounts.
Now in reading through the posts on the board I've seen a few examples where someone has mounted their calipers rearward, and I wanted to ask: can I use off-the-shelf brake hoses for that and if so from which car? Or would I be better off having custom hoses made?
Thanks!
David
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Re: B-body disk conversion question- brake hoses
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Unless someone has done that swap & has a hose recommendation for you I'd get the calipers mounted & measure roughly how long of a hose you need then see if your friendly parts house will set some out for you. when measureing do so from lock to lock & with the suspension pulled all the way down & jacked up till the front wheels are off the ground. The hoses with the long metal collar on 1 end gave me the most trouble on an A body swap. the collar I am refering to is not the bracket in the middle of a volare hose it's on the end on some hose types
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Re: B-body disk conversion question- brake hoses
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Thanks, all. Yes I thought that maybe someone might've had the same configuration and was able to figure out what off-the-shelf hoses would work but it sounds like everyone in this situation went the custom route. I don't have the knuckles installed just yet but it sounds like I need to just get everything back together and get the measurements. I'll then contact DoctorDiff for some custom made ones.
Thanks!
David
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Re: B-body disk conversion question- brake hoses
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I think that DoctorDiff has found some Camaro lines that work. Best bet is to look at his website and/or call him.
He only shows braided ones on his site. 68 GTO might be close as they are banjo style and are rear mounted.
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Re: B-body disk conversion question- brake hoses
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I don't recommend mounting pre 1980 slider calipers toward the rear due to hose routing.
Hmm.... well I'll try to swap the spindles so the calipers are forward, but from what I've read on the conversion I'm not too hopeful that I won't run into any interference issues with the sway bar. On the other hand I also seem to recall that not everyone ran into this problem- hopefully I'll fall in that category.
Failing that, my only other recourse would be to replace the front wheel hardlines with longer ones that will run forward of the wheel, and weld in new brackets for the hoses.
Edit - question: do I HAVE to run pre-80s slider calipers on a pre-80s steering knuckle? What if I get slider calipers from a '80 and up Diplomat? Will they fit on the knuckles? I assume that the issue is with where the hose connection is on the caliper, and that the location changed in 1980?
Last edited by David_Trimble; 12/14/13 06:34 PM.
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Re: B-body disk conversion question- brake hoses
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Cass . . . why do you say not to use the rear slider caliper ??? I used a 77 F body spindle and slider caliper on my Sport Satellite, and the stainless steel hoses from you . . . only issue I saw, was having to have a "loop" in the hose, the loop can be closer to the caliper or to the body, depending on how you install. I choose to put the loop near the caliper . . . checked for clearance, turning steering lock to lock, and looking at suspension, up and down . . . hoses don't get close to anything . . . after 5000 miles, everthing is still good, and it stops great . . . I know I should post some pics . . . . just my two cents worth . . .
PS - aren't all the slider calipers from 76 up, the same ???? single piston . . .
Mark
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Re: B-body disk conversion question- brake hoses
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So do you just ask for hoses for a 69 Camero with disc brakes?
I have discs from an 87 5th AVE,used the hoses also but have not checked them through range of motion yet to see if they will be ok but in the past I have always used the donor car hoses,just never used anything this new.
who is that guy?
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