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Hughes Whiplash Cams #1543314
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Has anyone used a Hughes Whiplash cam in their 440? I just read a dyno sheet where Dunnuck Racing made 491 hp and 578 ft-lbs of torque in a 9.2:1 440 with out of the box Edelbrock RPM heads and intake. I find that pretty impressive, but wondering if anyone has actual real world experience on the street?

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No actual experience with them but there's been several good reviews on here about em. I did use a custom circle track cam of his' & when the RPM got up on the cam it turned on like crazy & scared me. I just talked to Dave earlier today. I'd recommend his stuff, wouldn't be cheap tho but nothing good is (for the most part)


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I have a 73 440 HP with only 40,000 miles on it. Right now it has a Summit cam, 224/234 duration @.050, .466/.488 lift int/ex, LSA 114. It runs okay, but I don't have enough compression for it. I think the Whiplash cam would be a much better fit.

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Do a search on the trucks page and read member Scratchinfortraction's rave reviews of his Whiplash cam.

My own opinion is that they're gimmick cams, I am not interested in a lumpy idle just so my car "sounds tough". BUT if that's what you want, they get the job done with good power production to boot.

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Yeah, I like the way they sound but, I like the fact that they are designed for low compression engines and increase cylinder pressure. 491 hp and 578 ft-lbs of torque in a basically stock engine is fairly impressive. It's going to be used in my 77 D100 swb. It's a cruiser and parts chaser. Might make a pass or two at my local dragstrip but, it will mostly be a driver.

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I have a 88-440 truck and waiting on the down time to swap the whiplash cam into the 440.

I swaped in the 318 whiplash roller cam for the magnum engine in the stock JY 91 pre-mag #302 headed 318.

sounds nasty and works in my 85 stepside. has a lot of lowend torque and great throttle responce. woke it right up.

I am in the middle of swaping a NV4500 5 speed into the stepside behind the whiplash roller 318 now.

then the 440 truck is up for a freshin up with a set of 452 heads/headers.

heck, just the edelbroke RPM intake/edelbroke q-jet woke the 78 lopo smogger 440 up in the 88 truck with a 727/3.91sg.

the whiplash may be a gimmick...but that gimmick sure works in a lopo mopar for a daily driver..I sure have more fun with less engine than most have with more engine on the street.

I have more use for a street engine than a race engine.

check out member Junky and his 383 whiplash.. he was real happy with his also.

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Re: Hughes Whiplash Cams [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1543320
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Can't wait for spring. Too darn cold right now to be wrenching on my rig. Definitely going to install the RB Whiplash cam. Nothing like rolling into a cruise in and having heads turn. This thing rarely will see anything over 5 grand on the street, but if it makes more power from idle to 5000 rpm, I'll be a happy camper.

Re: Hughes Whiplash Cams [Re: elmor353] #1543321
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yea, these cams are VERY gimmicky...



bone stock 5.9 Magnum. 2bbl M1 EFI intake edelbrock small tube headers and SCT tuner.

add one 5.9 Whiplash cam (222°/228° @ .050, .544 lift, 107 LSA installed at 104) and suddenly I'm putting down 285 hp to the wheels (nearly 100 hp more than stock) with more HP left on the table...my stock TB was causing me to build up to 3" of manifold vacuum at WOT above 4,000 RPM. Truck was running 14.2 1/4 miles at 97-99 mph with traction limited 60' times of 2.2-2.3 With traction, that 4,000 lb street truck would have been into the 13s.

not bad when bone stock it was lucky to run a 15.2



Gimmick or not, they flat out work for cheap "junkyard motors" that are still low compression, stock heads, etc.


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yea, these cams are VERY gimmicky...



bone stock 5.9 Magnum. 2bbl M1 EFI intake edelbrock small tube headers and SCT tuner.

add one 5.9 Whiplash cam (222°/228° @ .050, .544 lift, 107 LSA installed at 104) and suddenly I'm putting down 285 hp to the wheels (nearly 100 hp more than stock) with more HP left on the table...my stock TB was causing me to build up to 3" of manifold vacuum at WOT above 4,000 RPM. Truck was running 14.2 1/4 miles at 97-99 mph with traction limited 60' times of 2.2-2.3 With traction, that 4,000 lb street truck would have been into the 13s.

not bad when bone stock it was lucky to run a 15.2



Gimmick or not, they flat out work for cheap "junkyard motors" that are still low compression, stock heads, etc.




yea, I forgot about your vids of the DAK on the dyno you should post that up for him to hear/see in action.





it is not chebby lobes on a mopar stick for sure.

Re: Hughes Whiplash Cams [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1543323
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There's no gimmick anything about these cams. Hughes just put a cool name on the stick.

I installed one in my 383 a year or two ago. I was very, very pleased with the performance of the came once I tuned the engine. Yeah, it has a nice lumpy sound. But, dude, it winds to 6000 RPM like there's no tomorrow. I mean for a 383 it gets with it! From a stop, no foot breaking, just mash the go peddle, it will blow the 275/60/15's off the back of my Coronet, hit 2nd and does a nice little wiggle due to tires spinning. I need stickier tires.

Hughes designed it to run in a stock to very mildly modified engine with no more than 9 to 1 compression in mind. My engine has had some head work and other goodies installed. They did an excellent job of designing it.

107 lobe separation, installed ceterline 102.

229 degrees intake and 242 degrees exhaust at 0.050" tappet lift.


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Mine only pulls to 5300 or so. That was my only complaint. But Dwayne porter says that I was valve spring limited even though I was using the ones they spec'd for the cam. We'll see how it does with eddy aluminum heads. My shop is setting them up for 140 lbs seat pressure.


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What is the small block equivalent (warmed 340 in my case)?

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What stall speed convertor are you guys using with those cams?

I thought about buying one of those cams for my 383 but it's in front of a 1962 trans and the stock convertor doesn't have much of a stall to it.

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What is the small block equivalent (warmed 340 in my case)?




Depends if you want LA Flat tappet stuff or magnum roller

If you go to Hughes website they'll have them listed as 'whiplash'. For example, under small block magnum, cams, they have listed 5.2 whiplash and 5.9 whiplash

The common theme on them is the 107 LSA.


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I have a 88-440 truck and waiting on the down time to swap the whiplash cam into the 440.

I swaped in the 318 whiplash roller cam for the magnum engine in the stock JY 91 pre-mag #302 headed 318.

sounds nasty and works in my 85 stepside. has a lot of lowend torque and great throttle responce. woke it right up.

I am in the middle of swaping a NV4500 5 speed into the stepside behind the whiplash roller 318 now.

then the 440 truck is up for a freshin up with a set of 452 heads/headers.

heck, just the edelbroke RPM intake/edelbroke q-jet woke the 78 lopo smogger 440 up in the 88 truck with a 727/3.91sg.

the whiplash may be a gimmick...but that gimmick sure works in a lopo mopar for a daily driver..I sure have more fun with less engine than most have with more engine on the street.

I have more use for a street engine than a race engine.

check out member Junky and his 383 whiplash.. he was real happy with his also.




Beautiful truck, Scratchin'!! Dodge should have offered that color scheme/trim package back then for the 88' pickups. Would have been a big seller. Hey, let us know how well that Whiplash cam runs in the 440. I figure that truck weighs in a 3800-3900 lbs? Probably similar performance as a 68'-69' 440 powered B-Body. Good luck with it and have BIG fun driving it.



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What stall speed convertor are you guys using with those cams?

I thought about buying one of those cams for my 383 but it's in front of a 1962 trans and the stock convertor doesn't have much of a stall to it.




Mine's a stick shift.

but I would imagine that you don't need much stall. I can roll out and let the clutch all the way out, then once I'm rolling along (maybe around 1000-1200 rpm), stand on it, and the tires go up in smoke immediately, no delay waiting for the RPM to come up.


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Very nice! Can't wait for warmer weather. The 440 will definitely get a Whiplash cam.

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What stall speed convertor are you guys using with those cams?

I thought about buying one of those cams for my 383 but it's in front of a 1962 trans and the stock convertor doesn't have much of a stall to it.



I run a custom built 12" tight torque converter that will flash to 2500 RPM in 1st gear from a stop.


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Just seems like a bit much cam for your typical 7.5-1 smogger in a heavy highway geared pig like my newport.

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