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Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1541153
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This thread and the OE 340 thread made me go out and check the coil on my GTS. I have to take it off the car to verify but I think it may be the original.

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Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1541154
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We were talking about coils, and the most complete listing from Year One stops with 71, that is unless they have added more. My catalog is a couple of years old. I didn't make the rules I just follow them. After 71 the Hemi is gone, and except for a few six packs that escaped, it's gone to. The 400 was a slug compared to a good 383. Insurance and gas prices,and emissions, just the way it was, even though I like a lot of the newer cars, especially the later Charger SEs.

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 71birdJ68] #1541155
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We were talking about coils, and the most complete listing from Year One stops with 71, that is unless they have added more. My catalog is a couple of years old. I didn't make the rules I just follow them. After 71 the Hemi is gone, and except for a few six packs that escaped, it's gone to. The 400 was a slug compared to a good 383. Insurance and gas prices,and emissions, just the way it was, even though I like a lot of the newer cars, especially the later Charger SEs.




The 1972 440 Charger and other B-bodies still had something going on. Change the heads and compression on the '72 340's and you're back to '70/'71 performance.

For the 1973-1974 models, I think Chrysler screwed itself with the "Big Bumper" cars...

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1541156
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YO also skipped a bunch of early 71 cars, the earliest date for that model year starts at 320 (32nd week of 1970) which would not be correct for most cars built from August to October.

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1541157
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FYI, Dixie sells the coils made by M&H, Year One sells the coils made by M&H, and M&H sells direct. all seem to be similarly priced (YO only when on sale, etc.). So it looks like ECS's transfers and M&H are the only two choices out there right now?

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1541158
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The 1972 440 Charger and other B-bodies still had something going on. Change the heads and compression on the '72 340's and you're back to '70/'71 performance.

I meant right out of the box, not changing stuff to make them run good.

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 71birdJ68] #1541159
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The 1972 440 Charger and other B-bodies still had something going on. Change the heads and compression on the '72 340's and you're back to '70/'71 performance.

I meant right out of the box, not changing stuff to make them run good.




We could drag this on forever and start to compare old Mopars to modern Muscle Cars...lol...I love the 1972 models...Sorry you don't. I also love many models from '66 to '71 as well. Enjoy whatever you have in the garage

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1541160
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YO also skipped a bunch of early 71 cars, the earliest date for that model year starts at 320 (32nd week of 1970) which would not be correct for most cars built from August to October.




Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the ECS website said something about other transfers being available? Someone must be able to make a date that is needed.

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1541161
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the ECS website said something about other transfers being available? Someone must be able to make a date that is needed.




I was speaking of Year One's coil dates, not ECS's transfer dates. Two different vendors.

Interestingly M&H supplies Year One who only lists 1971 dates going back to 320, but M&H lists earlier dates on their site. Maybe Year One could special order different dates? I don't know but I do know they charge more than M&H so why bother with the Middle man?

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1541162
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the ECS website said something about other transfers being available? Someone must be able to make a date that is needed.




I was speaking of Year One's coil dates, not ECS's transfer dates. Two different vendors.

Interestingly M&H supplies Year One who only lists 1971 dates going back to 320, but M&H lists earlier dates on their site. Maybe Year One could special order different dates? I don't know but I do know they charge more than M&H so why bother with the Middle man?




Lol...I know, I just had ECS on my mind...I read that you can order these directly from them...you're all set man!....http://www.wiringharness.com/PDFS/Chrysler_Date_Coded_Coils_2013.pdf

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1541163
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What is the web site for M&H?

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Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1541165
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As an aside. It is my understanding that factory multi-carb cars had a shorter coil than single-carb applications. Can anyone verify this statement and if this is accurate where would an owner go to get an authentic "short" coil?

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never heard of the short coil?

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: LimeliteAero] #1541167
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Restoration Plus Series coils are correct for many 1966 to 1971 Chrysler cars. It is important to note that there
were originally two distinct types of coils utilized in these vehicles, each manufactured by a different company.
The coil we have reproduced is known by restorers as the “Long Skinny Type” and was manufactured by Essex.
The Essex coil features the part number 2444241 and the words Made in USA stamped on the side of it. The Essex coil was used in a good majority of vehicles produced from 1966 to 1971. The other coil that was used was
known as the “Short Fat Type” and was manufactured by Prestolite. The Prestolite coil has part number 2444242
on the side of it and the words Made in USA on top of the tower and is not currently being reproduced.

Something I've found as a general rule Essex coils used green lettering. Prestolite used yellow lettering BUT this is NOT writen in stone.
I have seen yellow print Essex coils but have never come across a green or white print Prestolite coil.

Generaly 1972 and later used what is reffered to as the the flag print style . Similar to what is still avail thru Mopar but done in green print. It has the rectangular box on it, sometimes with the word ' Mopar ' printed in it

Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: Mr D21] #1541168
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I just ordered one this morning - YO has a 30% code - BF13.
Total shipped to California was about $70...





Post a picture when it arrives please.........


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Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: gtx6970] #1541170
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Who made this coil Bill?

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Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1541171
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same coil

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Re: Who sells the most accurate green stamped coil? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1541172
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This is the ECS transfer, comparing it to the original above it's very nice but a bit too perfect as compared to an ink stamping which leaves dry, slightly smeared and uneven areas.

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