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HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/20/13 11:54 PM
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Hey gang..
Looks like I my "Mancini Street Hemi Package" isn't as sweet as I thought it was going to be.....
Anyone running the OEM intake with the Edelbrock 600's? The progressive rod seems to be, "not the best" in the world. When I got the kit, there was one bushing zip-tied to the rear carb's throttle arm. Well, that's all fine and dandy and fit like a glove, but they only supplied ONE bushing. The attach hardware for the other end of the progressive linkage doesn't center itself.. I am going to call Mancini back tomorrow. I called today and they "pointed fingers" at Edelbrock, which I in turned called. Edelbrock stated they aren't the ones that zip-tied the bushings, so it must be the department within Mancini that's building these things ( or Mopar Performance ).... Can I see how ya'll have yours?
I was warned............ you were right Anthony (71 RR- J68 )
This is what I have.......
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/20/13 11:55 PM
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Doesn't seem to be totally lined up parallel.......
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/20/13 11:55 PM
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you can see where, because of the lack of the bushing, the attach nut/bolt isn't centered...... Come on, Man !!!
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 12:21 AM
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I hate it when I'm right. I sent my phone number, and if you'd called I could have told you how to fix that. I'm still here if you want. On a side note, Mancini does that stuff all the time, I have went round , and round with them before. Yes you should have gotten two bushings. One thing, you have the rod on backwards. Call me so I know exactly what you bought, and I can tell what's going on. I have already been through this.
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 09:30 AM
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First I think you have the progressive rod on backward....
Summitt Racing has a set up that works with these carbs so check them out.
Russ
Yeap Russ,
I figured that one out AFTER I took the picture and looked into my FSM. I should have remembered since I used to have a 426 Hemi Charger R/T project. I took the picure prior to repositioning........ Duh !!! 
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I hate it when I'm right. I sent my phone number, and if you'd called I could have told you how to fix that. I'm still here if you want. On a side note, Mancini does that stuff all the time, I have went round , and round with them before. Yes you should have gotten two bushings. One thing, you have the rod on backwards. Call me so I know exactly what you bought, and I can tell what's going on. I have already been through this.
Yeap, you sent it.. I do appreciate you reaching out. I just got wrapped up in work, getting-home "stuff", trying to work out the motor situation, etc... Hindsight is 20/20... I am going to call Mancini back. They constructed the package, so they should know exactly what I'm talking about............
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 10:52 AM
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Where is the bracket that the throttle cable hooks to? A big U shaped thing that bolts to the rear carb. But what Mancini doesn't want to tell you is how to make the progressive linkage work. I like to never got that out of them. Also you will only get about 1/3 open on the rear, when the front starts to open. No, they don't make that package, they have some guy out side of the business in town do it, and he does not want to help. Unless they have changed who does it. What is that bracket at the back of the manifold?
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 11:31 AM
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Where is the bracket that the throttle cable hooks to? A big U shaped thing that bolts to the rear carb. But what Mancini doesn't want to tell you is how to make the progressive linkage work. I like to never got that out of them. Also you will only get about 1/3 open on the rear, when the front starts to open. No, they don't make that package, they have some guy out side of the business in town do it, and he does not want to help. Unless they have changed who does it. What is that bracket at the back of the manifold?
The U-shaped throttle arm bracket apparently doesn't come with it. I think this is [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] since in the picture it is obviously there. The rear throttle cable attach bracket is attached to the rear of the manifold. I think I need to address this to Mr. Mancini... But, I can't return it since I bought the package from a member here on moparts.......... Oh well........ Live and learn even at 49....... I am going a different route with this endeavor..
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 12:41 PM
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Is that a automatic car?
If this is directed at me, then yes, I got the hardware kit for an auto....
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 02:49 PM
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I do agree its dumb they don't add the $12 part to the kit..
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 03:53 PM
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Did you ask the guy you bought it from, if he had lost any parts?
Sure did, stated he didn't have them.........
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I do agree its dumb they don't add the $12 part to the kit..
I challenged Mancini's person who answered the phone and he said it wasn't in the "package". I told him it is pictured in it, so why wasn't it part of the kit.. Mentioned to him it was useless without it to a Mopar guy.......
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 05:29 PM
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They came in my linkage kit. You know Mancinis service really stinks. The only reason to use them is they have nice stuff at a reasonable price. And you know what, they don't care. 
You got both bushings in your package? And the throttle attach bracket adaptor as well?
It wouldn't be all that bad if the bushing was available, but it is probably made locally. The throttle bracket is different. I can order those on my own......
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 07:09 PM
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They came in my linkage kit. You know Mancinis service really stinks. The only reason to use them is they have nice stuff at a reasonable price. And you know what, they don't care.
You got both bushings in your package? And the throttle attach bracket adaptor as well?
It wouldn't be all that bad if the bushing was available, but it is probably made locally. The throttle bracket is different. I can order those on my own......
Looking at the picture above there isn't a second bushing , you have it put together wrong , the hole the front stud goes in doesn't require a bushing ???
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 07:13 PM
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Let me clarify it a little. I already had the crabs and intake, I called them up ,told them what I had, and said send me what ever it takes to make this work. I keep having to call to get something that I didn't know what I needed, even after I said send me what ever I need to make it work.But to answer your question, yes I got both bushings together. I just don't remember if it was a Mr. Gasket kit, or that kit in your picture. You know, it is so much easer to explain this on the phone. Let me look at mine again, make sure of how I finally got it to work.
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 07:27 PM
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Ok, after looking at mine again, John is right, you don't need a bushing in the front. You have to drill one of the two holes below the big one for that spring retainer thing.That will put it down so you will have a progressive set up. But, after looking at my leftover parts, I still had several bushings leftover that all came in one package.
You know if I knew then what I know now, I would have gotten the whole thing from Scott Harm with his reworked Carter carbs. Then everything works the way it is supposed to without any headache.
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Re: HEMI owners with 2x4 Edelbrocks
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11/21/13 08:53 PM
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You know if I knew then what I know now, I would have gotten the whole thing from Scott Harm with his reworked Carter carbs. Then everything works the way it is supposed to without any headache.
And that's exactly what I'm doing now........ It is only a matter of sending the money....  I didn't know Scott sold those either. He contacted me ( unfortunately, it was after this thread and I bought the system thinking ( again, assuming the right word ), Mancini would have their act together........ So, I'm selling the carbs and being done with the Eddy's... I have the spring and linkage kits that'll work with his carbs........ And look a hell of a lot better......
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