Re: xr1 block nightmare
[Re: scottb]
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11/08/13 12:29 PM
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Ritter has the money to make things right with this block I just don't think he wants to spend the extra money to make it work right put it off on the who ever buys one
Sales will be minimal untill buyers feel they are getting a quality and usable product.If he wants to successfully market this block,buyers have to be confident before purchasing a unproven or untested product.We feel that if all issues can be resolved and there is a proven performance and reliability demonstrated than he will have hit a homerun and we can all benifit.I will await a response or more info from Holgar(sixpakbee)since he has an in with Kent.
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
[Re: B G Racing]
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10/10/14 02:52 PM
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The Aluminum proto type is almost in complete engine form now. Kent has been good to deal with. This block has fought us every step of the way unfortunetly, but we are determined to make an engine out of it. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We have our top pro engine builder on the case. She was showing me how to degree the cam. I can post some progress pictures later on. Thanks. -Kenny
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
[Re: StrokerAspen]
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10/10/14 10:36 PM
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I know Kent is a very smart guy, and sells lots of parts to folks. What I don't get is how in any way shape or form he shouldn't get called out for maliciously selling a lousy block and taking people's money for it.... Fully aware it wasn't usable. Shame on the guy....... Sorry, zero excuse for that in my opinion
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
[Re: StrokerAspen]
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12/16/14 01:43 AM
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What head gasket are you using.I'm looking for ideas thanks.looks like to me the water passages in the deck are for p-7 head which does not work with an LA style head I'm still having a hard time getting the heads sealed upgrade
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
[Re: SpareParts]
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12/16/14 02:50 AM
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In all seriousness, are the issues you've tackled going to be addressed in Kent's blocks or are you kind of the last Mohican in this situation?
What's the power level you're shooting for? I wanna know the threshold of this thing?
I will stop by the shop this week and se how things look. It is a 468ci. 245CNC Indy headed deal. I think around 12:1 if I recall correctly. Sorry for the grey info, it really has been a while since Dad and I were talking about the details on this unit. It is a solid roller deal with specs around 277/284 @ .050" I think, I REALLY JUST NEED TO SIT DOWN AND MAKE A BUILD THREAD! I might find the time in the Christmas season. That should give you a sorta kinda idea of the power that is being asked from this unit. The block does look like a well built piece, just a lot of stuff that is placed bad, and not thought out very well. Thankfully we have a great machine shop that we work with, and they know how to use their equipment well to correct the problems.
As for head gaskets, I'll get you the for sure details on them. This block may be different than yours WHITEDART. I know of another iron block that is up hear and it's not useable because of a different set of problems.
I am hoping this whole deal can be sorted out to supply us Mopar dude's with a good block with availability. I got a 48 degree 9.600" siamezed R3 block about 6 months ago for a customer. I recently started as a new car salesman at a local Dodge dealer. It's our slow time so I went over to the parts guy and gave him the same part number and it comes up as discontinued. I don't know what the deal is there, I hope Mopar sorts its stuff out and starts making them again.
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
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12/16/14 11:52 AM
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I recently started as a new car salesman at a local Dodge dealer. It's our slow time so I went over to the parts guy and gave him the same part number and it comes up as discontinued. I don't know what the deal is there, I hope Mopar sorts its stuff out and starts making them again.
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-Kenny
try to order any R3 number and it comes up "NS1" which means they are not making them anymore. you can't even put an order in to show demand, it just spits it back at you. they hit this status last June.
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
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12/16/14 12:36 PM
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I finished an edelbrock headed 434 using a 59* ritter iron block early this year. Other than lack of counterweight clearance, [was clearanced by ritter for a 30 pound Winberg crank like he would use], only a few other minor issues. Engine was beat on all year with no issues. Not the most powerful engine, but not bad for eddy RPM heads. 3300 pound Dart. Car not that heavy but driver not that light. Ran 6.35 at 109 mph.
I have been to Accelaquarter one day in my life and I saw your car there, good runner for the combo. Didn't know it was a Ritter block
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
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12/16/14 02:03 PM
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I recently started as a new car salesman at a local Dodge dealer. It's our slow time so I went over to the parts guy and gave him the same part number and it comes up as discontinued. I don't know what the deal is there, I hope Mopar sorts its stuff out and starts making them again.
Thanks
-Kenny
try to order any R3 number and it comes up "NS1" which means they are not making them anymore. you can't even put an order in to show demand, it just spits it back at you. they hit this status last June.
Wow, we just got in there in time. That is a serious bummer though!
-Kenny
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Re: xr1 block nightmare
[Re: SpareParts]
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12/16/14 02:55 PM
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I finished an edelbrock headed 434 using a 59* ritter iron block early this year. Other than lack of counterweight clearance, [was clearanced by ritter for a 30 pound Winberg crank like he would use], only a few other minor issues. Engine was beat on all year with no issues. Not the most powerful engine, but not bad for eddy RPM heads. 3300 pound Dart. Car not that heavy but driver not that light. Ran 6.35 at 109 mph.
I have been to Accelaquarter one day in my life and I saw your car there, good runner for the combo. Didn't know it was a Ritter block
Actually not my car. A good friends car. Mine is the LeBaron or white Demon depending on the day you were there. The Demon has a 418 C.I. sm block, stock block and cyl. head combo that runs very well for what it is. Also has a flat tappet cam and burns gasoline. Weighs 3050 pounds. Even with 1875 passes, it still ran low 6.2s at 109mph late this year. When engine was new and fresh it went 6.09 at 111 mph. The Lebaron is a 512 C.I. BBM, World block, Indy SR head engine with the same grind flat tappet camshaft, [Racer Brown STX-22], that's in the sm block in the Demon. It has been 5.45 at 126 mph. Weighs 2560 pounds.
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