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Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: High Impact] #1522762
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Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: High Impact] #1522763
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23 spline with two different shifter mounts. sorry for the terrible pictures.

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Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: 493DRIVER] #1522764
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Look good scott things are coming along...








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Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: High Impact] #1522765
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just got home and took some pictures. this is the housing that I have.... it doesn't look like the ones that you have pictured for me.
these were supposed to have been out of a 69 Coronet RT.







Dave,

What you have is a center column bracket from a 70-4 E body, but fortunately the pedals you have and the side clutch bracket are 66-7 B body, close enough for 68-70 pedals, they will swap into your 70 automatic center section...someone must have tried to swap that stuff into an E body before you got it


here's a pic of 68-70 B body pedals only

Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: DAYCLONA] #1522766
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...68-70 b body

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Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: DAYCLONA] #1522767
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Dave, the 23 spline tailshaft would be "technically correct" for your application 70 B/E and you could use your stock 70 B body (1 yr only) automatic tranny crossmember on the 23 spline tailshaft unmodified...if you want to use the 18 spline, thats a 69 and down tranny you have there, different crossmembers between auto/4sp...but you can use your automatic 70 crossmember, you just need to cut open the top welded in structure, and cut off the 70 nose stub where the mount fit (rubber), then purchase a 68-9 mount

Photo below, 70 auto/4spd mount on top, 68-9 4spd only bottom, basically the same, just needs some surgery, on the 68-9 the mount fits inside the open crossmember, either tranny you decide to use will still locate your shifter in the correct opening on the floor


Next question what driveline did the car have before?, what type of automatic 727/904?, what rearend, what are you changing/useing?...

Mike

Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: DAYCLONA] #1522768
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Awesome!! Thanks for that last post Mike, that explained everything I was just going to type out!!

One more question. Where does the reverse light belong on the dash now. I have a light that I pulled out of a 72 Demon yeeeears ago and figured I need it so that this conversion looks correct.

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Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: High Impact] #1522769
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...from my 70 Charger

Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: DAYCLONA] #1522770
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Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: DAYCLONA] #1522771
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Dave, the 23 spline tailshaft would be "technically correct" for your application 70 B/E and you could use your stock 70 B body (1 yr only) automatic tranny crossmember on the 23 spline tailshaft unmodified...if you want to use the 18 spline, thats a 69 and down tranny you have there, different crossmembers between auto/4sp...but you can use your automatic 70 crossmember, you just need to cut open the top welded in structure, and cut off the 70 nose stub where the mount fit (rubber), then purchase a 68-9 mount

Photo below, 70 auto/4spd mount on top, 68-9 4spd only bottom, basically the same, just needs some surgery, on the 68-9 the mount fits inside the open crossmember, either tranny you decide to use will still locate your shifter in the correct opening on the floor


Next question what driveline did the car have before?, what type of automatic 727/904?, what rearend, what are you changing/useing?...

Mike





Can I swap the 23 spline tail shaft onto the 18 spline? (curious)
The car had a 383-727 combo with a 8.75 with (489) 3.91 gears but I had a thought of maybe swapping the Dana 60 from my Superbee as that car could use more gear anyways....lots of options! I'm basically trying to use up a lot of stuff I have laying around and really having fun doing this car!!&

Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: High Impact] #1522772
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Dave, you need to measure the 18 spline's tailshaft overall length, minus the rear shaft seal to where it bolts to the tranny, the 23 spline will measure (should) approx 16 inches, measure the 18 spline...

Mike

Re: 69-1970 B-body Four Speed Pedals>explain the diffrence [Re: DAYCLONA] #1522773
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Okay, I'll do it tomorrow. Thanks!

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