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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: 69CoronetRT]
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11/19/08 12:50 PM
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Technically the 383HP wasn't available in the '69 Coronet 500.
... so besides a "HP" stamp, what evidence do you have to support that claim?
B'cast sheet and or Lynch Rd. fender tag numbers?
Dan, I'm not sure what you mean by 'technically', but a 383 four speed 500 would have the HP assembly.
I agree you'd need tag or BS proof for an A/C car to have the HP assembly.
I should've made the statement stand on its own ... it was a response to "copchaser's" claim.
The 383HP (335hp) wasn't available in the '69 Coronet 500 with an automatic and/or A/C.
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
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11/21/08 03:20 AM
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My bee has the 054 radiator as well. Came with the A 35 trailer tow package. I also have the " 383 four barrel " pie tin instead of the Magnum but have the un silenced air cleaner which the original owner said came factory on it. Also the black breather cap not chrome.
77 Macho Power Wagon LWB factory 440
70 Coronet 440 N code 3 speed
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: 69superbee383]
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11/21/08 03:42 AM
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I also have the " 383 four barrel " pie tin instead of the Magnum but have the un silenced air cleaner which the original owner said came factory on it. Also the black breather cap not chrome.
Mines exactly the same (black Oil Cap, "383 Four Barrel" tin. The duel snorkel) AC may have been a California deal, part of some lame noise reduction attempt? Tough to say but my car was an LA build car so it makes sense.
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
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11/21/08 02:41 PM
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Scott -
Yup, dual snorkel was part of the Noise Reduction Pkg as far as I can tell. Was on my '70 383 4bbl Satellite (not orange) motor. Supposedly the chrome tips were N/A as part of that same pkg; legend has it that no CA cars had tips, but the 1st '68 Hemi RR in L.A. (which a high-school friend had - nice parents, huh?!) had them. Neither of my '68 383 RRs came with tips, one L.A.-built, one St.Louis and originally delivered to Denver.
Even non-California '68 383 Road Runner's did NOT get the tips. The tips were only available on the Hemi RR for some reason......I haven't found any info that said they were available on the late '68 RR RM23's with the decor option but I'm going to put them on my '68 RR (RM23) because they make the car sound soooooo much better.....
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
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11/21/08 04:01 PM
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I was under the impression that the Chrome Tips came on all 69 RR's equiped with the A-87 Decor Group, except those built for (not in) California. All cars built for California came with the turn down pipes. Additionally all cars built for California came with the unsilenced Duel Snorkel Air Cleaner.
This is true for the '69 RR (except I think you meant "Silenced" Duel Snorkel?) but the '68 383 RR did Not get the chrome tips in any State, just the Hemi engined RR got the tips.
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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11/21/08 11:50 PM
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Fender tag
didn't the 383-4 and 383-magnum(super-bee and RR) BOTH use E63 on the fender tag?? was the only specified definition between the two engines on the build sheet??
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
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11/22/08 12:48 AM
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Fender tag
didn't the 383-4 and 383-magnum(super-bee and RR) BOTH use E63 on the fender tag?? was the only specified definition between the two engines on the build sheet??
Yes and they all used H as the VIN code. That's what causes confusion.
All A, B, & C body 383-4bbls code the same way.
Many sources cite the 'H' as the HP code when in fact the car may not have the HP assembly.
The only way to tell which assembly the car recieved is via the BS or a Lynch Road fender tag.
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
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11/22/08 12:58 AM
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I was under the impression that the Chrome Tips came on all 69 RR's equiped with the A-87 Decor Group, except those built for (not in) California. All cars built for California came with the turn down pipes. Additionally all cars built for California came with the unsilenced Duel Snorkel Air Cleaner.
I keep seeing the No tips in California posted...I know it's true of a very few models like 70 440-6 equipt E bodies...But for the most part Mopar Muscle here in California back in the late sixties & early seventies got tips... My 68 Coronet R/T originally sold in Fremont had tips...My 69 Roadrunner A87 Coupe sold in Turlock had tips...My 70 Challenger R/T S.E. sold in Patterson...Tips...
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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11/22/08 07:00 PM
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I also have the " 383 four barrel " pie tin instead of the Magnum but have the un silenced air cleaner which the original owner said came factory on it. Also the black breather cap not chrome.
Mines exactly the same (black Oil Cap, "383 Four Barrel" tin. The duel snorkel) AC may have been a California deal, part of some lame noise reduction attempt? Tough to say but my car was an LA build car so it makes sense.
I think the dual snorkel was probably because it's not a Road Runner or Super Bee but this brings up another question. I think all the high performance B-bodies and A-bodies came with a chrome oil breather? It was the only dress up in the engine compartment. Maybe yours is black because it's a 330 horse SW? Now I wonder if the 330 horse 383 Super Bees, RoadRunner's and Charger R/T's with air had a black oil cap? My 340S Barracuda with air has a black cap but I don't know if it's the original but it's a very unmolested car? I'm going to put a chrome one on it.
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: RoadRunnerJD]
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11/25/08 05:20 PM
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My 340S Barracuda with air has a black cap but I don't know if it's the original but it's a very unmolested car?
The 340 cars always got the black caps.
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