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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: 70mopes]
#152173
11/17/08 04:25 PM
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70Mopes. Wuz happenin'. First, verify that its the original engine. If so,  check if there's an HP stamping on the engine pad next to engine year & size - & then if there's any evidence of the original engine paint,  that will tell you for sure. In our discussions here this past year on 1969 & 1970 B/E body 383 4bbl's w/ AC and correct engine color, an original BCS records the engine's designated factory code. Do you have one? It's there on line 4, a 3 digit code. If you found a code, share it here and someone else can tell you what color it was intended to be. All of Dodge & Plymouth's non-High Performance 383 & 440 4bbl's in 1970 were painted blue - while all HP 383 4bbl's were orange. Lastly, Carter carbs were only installed onto the non-HP 383's. At least, that's what I've been learning here. There were factors or a matrix then that determined if a HP or non-HP engine was installed when A/C was ordered. What those were is still being researched. So let us know what you find out. I would wait to hear more from owners of original 1969 RR's just like yours. 
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: A12]
#152177
11/17/08 06:18 PM
11/17/08 06:18 PM
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Las Vegas, NV
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TURQUOISE for A/C '69 Road Runner's
 The 3 digit number on the fender tag applies to "A" Lynch Rd. cars only, but the same number will be on any '69 b'cast sheet.
All '69 383 4bbl engines used a Carter AVS carb.
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: A12]
#152178
11/17/08 06:45 PM
11/17/08 06:45 PM
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S.E. Florida, USA
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Do you have a fender tag? The 3-digit engine code is at the top left second row down, first three digits.
Here's a '69 "survivor" Super Bee (I know it not a Road Runner) with A/C that has 899 on the fender tag and on the valve cover and it is turquoise and 330 hp instead of the 335 hp Super Bee/RR version.
Mike,
Do you have a entire engine bay shot of this car? I would like to see all the a/c lines/hoses Thanks
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: rrunner]
#152179
11/17/08 06:53 PM
11/17/08 06:53 PM
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N.E. OHIO, USA
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Do you have a fender tag? The 3-digit engine code is at the top left second row down, first three digits.
Here's a '69 "survivor" Super Bee (I know it not a Road Runner) with A/C that has 899 on the fender tag and on the valve cover and it is turquoise and 330 hp instead of the 335 hp Super Bee/RR version.
Mike,
Do you have a entire engine bay shot of this car? I would like to see all the a/c lines/hoses Thanks
I think I do but for now I know I have pieces-parts of the engine bay if this will help?
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: A12]
#152182
11/17/08 07:04 PM
11/17/08 07:04 PM
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S.E. Florida, USA
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Quote:
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Do you have a fender tag? The 3-digit engine code is at the top left second row down, first three digits.
Here's a '69 "survivor" Super Bee (I know it not a Road Runner) with A/C that has 899 on the fender tag and on the valve cover and it is turquoise and 330 hp instead of the 335 hp Super Bee/RR version.
Mike,
Do you have a entire engine bay shot of this car? I would like to see all the a/c lines/hoses Thanks
I think I do but for now I know I have pieces-parts of the engine bay if this will help?
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Yes, Thanks!  The only other thing I would need to see is the discharge hose ( compressor to condensor).
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: rrunner]
#152186
11/17/08 07:21 PM
11/17/08 07:21 PM
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N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
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Yes, Thanks! The only other thing I would need to see is the discharge hose ( compressor to condensor).
Have to dig somewhere else, may take a while?
MikeR
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: A12]
#152190
11/17/08 07:56 PM
11/17/08 07:56 PM
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Maple Valley, WA
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Thanks to all for your inputs. My data plate does not show the information some of you mentioned - it was build at the St. Louis plant (G code on the VIN). I do not have the original engine with this car however I do have a correct 69 HP 383 block I was going to run. I am a bit confused though. I see that in '69 you could get the magnum 383 (330HP) and the Roadrunner 383 (335HP). Would a roadrunner with A/C have had a 330HP magnum put in it? and if so, was this always the case? I am now thinking for my application that I would use a non HP 383 block with a turqoise paint job with a magnum 383 pie tin instead of a roadrunner 383 tin? I was going to use a dual snorker as well... this seems weird that roadrunners would not ALL come with a 'roadrunner 383" engine A/C or not.... hmmmmm. I have gone from wondering what color to paint my engine to which engine type to run, which air cleaner and which pie tin.... wow. Does anybody out there have an original '69 roadrunner with A/C that came with an HP block, a dual snorkel air cleaner and runs the '383 roadrunner" pie tin? 
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Re: '69 roadrunner w/AC - engine color?
[Re: 70mopes]
#152191
11/17/08 08:05 PM
11/17/08 08:05 PM
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Kelowna, B.C. Canada
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As Mike (A12) said in his first post; the pics he showed were for a SB with A/C, not a RR. No 383 Magnum in a RR and both 383hp's (RR and SB) were 335hp. The 330hp motors were also used depending how the car was equipped. A RR with a 383 and AC would have likely come with the 330hp motor (not called a Magnum). Forget the Magnum thing, it's just a Dodge version of the Commando/Super Commando.
My guess is a non hp, turquoise, carter equipped 383 with the roadrunner pie tin is correct for your car and without a broadcast sheet, a Lynch rd. fender tag (not applicable to you) or the original motor, that's as correct as you will get.
....I hope that makes some sence; if not, someone smarter'n me will chime in shortly!
Cheers,
Dave
1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1974 'Cuda
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