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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: Snoddas] #1521061
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here is a list giving distributor slot lengths for different degrees of timing. i had to weld my slots up on my hemi with the race distributor as if i set the initial to where it would idle the total was 45ish and if i set total at 38 it would die at idle. welded them up and demeled and filed them to get 14 degrees initial and all was fine then. Dave

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If you only have one sping the advance will go max limit at a low rpm maybe cranking rpm. You need to add a sping then see if it has advance.


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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: 1969gtx] #1521063
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Did you measure the final size of the Slots. Did it in some way ended up like the size/degree as the tabel? Do you know what spring you use. I assume you use Two springs. But was they light or heavy.
Yes 1969gtx, it advance directly with one spring especislly when the point where the spring is mountrd was bend towards the spring.


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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: Snoddas] #1521064
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Quote:

when the point where the spring is mountrd was bend towards the spring.


Could be someone used a non Mopar spring & likely bent that so the spring they used (probably a shorter one) would work


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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: RapidRobert] #1521065
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Today I will pickup the spring kit and do some test and tune.
I checked my MSD pro billet ditributor and it had the big black bushing (18 degrees mechanical advance) and one heavy silver spring and one light silver spring (not fast or slow curve just in the middle).

This is what I will try to copy on the old MP tach drive distributor. Probably need to shortened the slots on the advance plate...

Thanks for all help guys!

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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: Snoddas] #1521066
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I got two springs for ford but they worked, maybe kind of light also but will do some more test and tune. Now it dont get all mechanical advance directly. Unfortunatly its advance about 30 degrees...

I will modify this part to get the correct mechanical advance. What is this parts name, advance plate?

And mine is marked AC.

Have seen marking on others here on internet as 11R and 15L but that assume is the degreesX2 of mechanical advance but what is the R and L, right and left? If, should R plates be used for smallblock (rotating direction clockwise) distributors and L ones for bigblocks (counter clockwise) dists.

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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: Snoddas] #1521067
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Your right on the factory markings on the numbers and letters, right is clockwise and left is the other way The numbers are the amount of distributor degrees advance, not crankshaft degrees, so if it is marked 12 it ends up having 24 degrees advance at the crankshaft


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I tig-welded the slots a bit and machined them to about 0.390 inch. Now I am bang on target on the total (and initial) timing. Maybe do some more testing and tuning on when it kick in. Have maybe some Mopar OEM springs waiting.

By the way the tall-tale on the mechanical tachometers is a really kool feature!



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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: Snoddas] #1521069
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You're almost there . I'd mix & match springs so the mech advance starts a couple of hundred RPM above your idle speed in drive which is what the eng will see stoplight to stoplight & then with just enough tension so you are just under the pinging point at WOT up thru the gears on your hottest/driest (most likely to ping) day.


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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: RapidRobert] #1521070
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A friend of mine borrow me this spare distributor parts.

The two weights (Part #1889284) I think is for small block distributors?

The green spring which have the big loop on one side must be the heavy OEM spring.

The first from left must be the light OEM spring?

The other two short coil springs looks like mr. gasket 925B or Mopar performance recurve kit??

The broken/bend spring I dont even know if its a spring for a distributor.

Thanks!

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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: Snoddas] #1521071
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Quote:

The two weights (Part #1889284) I think is for small block distributors? pretty sure & I will check

The green spring which have the big loop on one side must be the heavy OEM spring. correct

The first from left must be the light OEM spring?
appears to be yes
The other two short coil springs looks like mr. gasket 925B or Mopar performance recurve kit?? looks like em

The broken/bend spring I dont even know if its a spring for a distributor. I agree

Thanks!




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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: RapidRobert] #1521072
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Haha Possible full score on the spring and weight test.

As I mention shortened the slots in the advance plate about 0,04" gave me 18 degrees mechanical advance.

Will now test and tune springs. I'm quite happy about the ford advance kit springs I have installed but will try two light mopar OEM springs. You couldent be too happy have ford part on a mopar...

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Re: Mopar Performance race distributor mechanical advance [Re: Snoddas] #1521073
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Will now test and tune springs. You couldent be too happy have ford part on a mopar.


(1) Mix & match the springs till you are just under the pinging point at WOT up thru the gears. (2) since the springs are small (& generic) & hidden we'll let you slide on the furd parts (this time)


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