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Took the front end out from a 72 charger to later rebuild and reinstall into 70 cuda
have everthing apart...except where the lower control arm goes on
control arm is off but there is a bushing/shell on one side with a stud/nut on the other side how do you get this apart? do i save any of this?


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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515706
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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515707
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X2 on welding a washer on. It'd cost a bit plus the trips to the welder but trust me it's well worth it & if you try to get it out any other way you will regret it. I'm assuming you are going with OE type LCA bushings (recommended) rather than poly so yes the can outer shell does have to come out as it is part of the new bushing


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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515709
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This is what im need to get off pass side seams to have a shell or something still on and the whole thing will turn i the k frame driver side wont spin pic is of pass side


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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515710
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Driver side


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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515711
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The bushing came apart. If you are using rubber bushings that shell will need to be removed so at this point clamp some vise grips on the shell and remove the nut. If you are going to be using poly lower bushings I would put the vise grips on the part right behind the lip as that doesn't contact anything.

Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1515712
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The driver side dont have a shell on it what do i need to do with that side? do i have to remove it??
the pass side the whole thing spins in the k frame driver side (no shell) none of it turns

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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515713
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The way I see it you have 2 choices ...

1) vice grips or something like that and clamp to the pin to hold it while you get the nut off

2) burn the nut off. That can usually be done without harming the threads on the pin.

On the one with no shell, don't worry about it. If you mar the surface you can clean it up with a file as that pin presses into the new shell - a marred surface won't matter.

Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: Stanton] #1515714
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I take it the threaded end needs to come past the k frame and.out though the shell?
will be using a rubber frontend
does the new parts come with shells?


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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515715
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Once the nut is loose you knock the pin out towards the back. To get the shell off the pin you make 4 grooves lengthwise in the shell with a cold chisel. This stretches the shell and it just slides off. The new parts come with the shells.

Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: Stanton] #1515716
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I'm surprised that the shell is gone from the one pin. Just use the vise grips on the shoulder by the lip, but it looks like you will need to clean off the old grease and grime...

Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: Stanton] #1515717
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Thanks i didnt want to tear the shell all apart if it was something i was gonna have to.reuse


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Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: toplescuda] #1515718
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Quote:

X2 on welding a washer on. It'd cost a bit plus the trips to the welder but trust me it's well worth it & if you try to get it out any other way you will regret it.




I know this wasn't the OP's question but I read a cool trick on FABO that I'm going to use on my Dart. It seems way easier then welding a washer to the bushing shell.

I purchased an 1 3/8"(I think) tap for $12 on E-bay. What you do is clamp the tap in a vise and screw the LCA onto it. Then you just press against the tap.

I assume an E and B body would require a larger tap but it should still work the same.

Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: burdar] #1515719
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Quote:

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X2 on welding a washer on. It'd cost a bit plus the trips to the welder but trust me it's well worth it & if you try to get it out any other way you will regret it.




I know this wasn't the OP's question but I read a cool trick on FABO that I'm going to use on my Dart. It seems way easier then welding a washer to the bushing shell.

I purchased an 1 3/8"(I think) tap for $12 on E-bay. What you do is clamp the tap in a vise and screw the LCA onto it. Then you just press against the tap.

I assume an E and B body would require a larger tap but it should still work the same.




Nope, all the LCA bushings are the same on A/B/E cars. I also bought a tap, but I have yet to use it...

Re: k frame dissassembly....... [Re: burdar] #1515720
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Not a bad idea ... if you're lucky enough to find a cheap tap, pay shipping and wait a few days for it to arrive then never need it again. How many LCA's would a guy do in their lifetime ?!?!?

The washer trick is quick and simple and guaranteed to work. If you don't own a welder there's usually a shop nearby that has one - and will usually weld the washers on for a coffee.

Not knocking your idea, just saying that the "KISS" principle is usually best.

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Not a bad idea ... if you're lucky enough to find a cheap tap, pay shipping and wait a few days for it to arrive then never need it again. How many LCA's would a guy do in their lifetime ?!?!?

The washer trick is quick and simple and guaranteed to work. If you don't own a welder there's usually a shop nearby that has one - and will usually weld the washers on for a coffee.

Not knocking your idea, just saying that the "KISS" principle is usually best.




How many LCAs?? I've probably done 30 or so...

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I took my Challenger LCA's in to have washer welded on. The guy welded the sleeve to the LCA. That was a PITA getting them out after that. There are plenty of people who build more than one car.

My tap was less than $12 shipped. I can always sell it to the next guy but as soon as I do that, I'll buy another project and wish I still had it.

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we did the tap on a 73 B body. worked great


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