Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Wedgeman]
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10/11/13 04:11 PM
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I would recommend the Dana 60 solution. You should be able to reuse your 35 spline axles and brakes. Truck Dana housings are easy to find for less than $200.00. Make sure the side carrier bearing has not spun in the housing to avoid additional machining costs (common problem, easily fixed). You will need to buy a new spool, bearings, seals, gears, companion flange, housing ends, ladder bar mounts, and shorten the driveshaft, but altogether (with your existing axles and brakes) you should be able to permanently solve your rear end troubles for less than $1,000.00. Check with Dr. Diff on prices. And you could sell the 8&3/4 carrier and spool to make up for a lot of the difference. And once you have a bullet-proof rear end, you can almost forget about the major reason that 727s explode.
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Polarapete]
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10/11/13 06:51 PM
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I would recommend the Dana 60 solution. You should be able to reuse your 35 spline axles and brakes. Truck Dana housings are easy to find for less than $200.00. Make sure the side carrier bearing has not spun in the housing to avoid additional machining costs (common problem, easily fixed). You will need to buy a new spool, bearings, seals, gears, companion flange, housing ends, ladder bar mounts, and shorten the driveshaft, but altogether (with your existing axles and brakes) you should be able to permanently solve your rear end troubles for less than $1,000.00. Check with Dr. Diff on prices. And you could sell the 8&3/4 carrier and spool to make up for a lot of the difference. And once you have a bullet-proof rear end, you can almost forget about the major reason that 727s explode.
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We run this same set-up, 30 spline axles even. We have been 1.28 60ft (no transbrake) and our rearend troubles are gone. We twisted a backbraced 8 3/4 and broke multiple pumpkins which led to broken sprags.. Once you add more power you will be glad you went dana..
Casey
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Wedgeman]
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10/11/13 07:20 PM
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I would not put any money into an 8.75! Dana or 9". If you ever upgrade to a higher HP engine the Dana or 9" will hold up. The rear is one part that overkill is good.
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Wedgeman]
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10/11/13 08:04 PM
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Will I be able to retain my 35 splines axles from my 8 3/4 ?
I had Strange 35 spline race axles special made to work with the stock A body 8 3/4 housing with the strange 35 spline 8 3/4 spool, I twisted that rascal(houusing) up horribly with no back brace. I swapped the axles over to the truck Dana 60 I had narrowed and I had to cut about 3/8 inch off the end of one axle, so yes you can reuse your 35 Spline axles in the Dana 60 with the 35 spline Strange, Dutchmen, Yukon and many other spools Make sure and check for end play, don't let the axles butt in the center The exception might be the Mark Williams 35 spline spool with thier different axle and spool teeth angle, 30 degree versus maybe 45 degree angles, not sure which one is which
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Whompin_Wedge]
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10/11/13 08:13 PM
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Yes you can, you have to put 8 3/4 ends on the dana. Brakes will work too.
Casey
Duh !! of course it will fit ! loll haven't thought of that so far lollll
Cab burge is saying my spool will fit in a Dana ???
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: rustbuckett68]
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10/12/13 01:44 PM
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hi, the 1967 to 72 ford 1/2 ton pickups had dana 60 rearends. it has 3 " tubes, is the lightest housing. cut ends of and weld on mopar ends I put one in a duster with fourspeed, its never givin me any trouble. I had to buy a spool, gears and yoke to make it fit. very simple change over. also, it has passenger car ends.with flanged axles.
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Darryls-Demon]
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10/12/13 03:16 PM
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The 8 3/4 Moser fab housing is a nice piece BUT they are a pain in a A-body with a stock fuel tank and fuel lines, everything is very tight. Also if you have the tubes braced on the Moser you will need to have the braces notched so the shocks fit.
That's what i use
if u were closer i'll buy that center sec.
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: racerx]
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10/12/13 03:33 PM
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Strange S-60 housing $569.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: mr. 63plymouth]
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10/13/13 03:46 AM
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Hi, My whole car is all weight revolved!! So I ordered mark Williams 28 spline good axles and had them machine out then heat treated!! Plus ring gear is cut back for weight!Killer strong and could put any centre section gear swap in anytime! Run a Detroit locker as well, no spool. Car is a true street car! Helps that I have a good friend that does this kinda stuff!! All steal body with stock glass, but sneaky lighting parts to make the car lighter, but look stock!! Lol, it's just me!!!
I've never heard of any 28 spline Mopar axles for 8 3/4, let alone a 28 spline spool for the Mopar 8 3/4. Ford nine inch yes, but not Mopar 8 3/4 Your not a keyboard racer, car builder are you
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Wedgeman]
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10/13/13 04:02 PM
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Can someone explain the differences between 2-series and 3-series gears ?
Hope I won't run into any problems putting a spool and 4.56 gear !
Dana 60 never came with a two sereis gear, only down to 3:54.The Dana 61 came with 3.30 gears. The two most common Dana 60 carriers and spools are three series or four sereis, the three sereis works on 3:54 to 4:10 stock Dana brand gears and on the U.S.(Strange house brand also)4:30 ratio. The four sereis works on 4:56 and above on most Dana gears and most after market gear sets, not all though When it comes time for you to buy a spool and gears make sure they are matched (same manufacturer if possible or same vendor )and intended to be ran with each other I just went through the hassle of trying to find out what U.S. Gears, 4:30 ratio, fit on which sereis 40 spline spool U.S Gear reps didn't know, U.S. Engr. didn't know They said to call Strange, Strange had already told me to call U.S. Gears I ended up calling a guy in Montana that use to own a rear end shop(J&S) in SO CA years ago and he said that the U.S. 4:30 gear sets will only fit the 4 sereis 40 spline Moser spools I bought a new one(40 spline steel spool) but I haven't swapped the 5:13 and Mark Willaims aluminum five seresi spool out of my new race car yet for the 4:30 and new steel spool, so I'm hoping he's correct IHTHs
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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03/19/14 06:49 PM
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Late reply, as usual Did the same thing to the 8-3/4 in my all steel '70 'Cuda with a 340; although a stick car. Put in a Dana 60 and never looked back. That was in 1985, and still running high tens today with no problems! I was bucks down back then and took a semi-floating truck housing, cut the ends off (since I was narrowing anyway) and welded on the ones from the twisted 8-3/4. I did build an alignment fixture to get the ends centered correctly. Running a spool and 35 spline axles... pretty close to bulletproof.
If it ain't broke ... you're not pushing it hard enough.
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted
[Re: Wedgeman]
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03/19/14 07:13 PM
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Will I be able to retain my 35 splines axles from my 8 3/4 ?
You will be able to use the old axles. But you will have to narrow the new housing about 1" narrower. The Dana pinion is offset. A Dana has one axle longer than the other. The shaft splines are long enough to slide the axle through the spool, no need to cut it off. So when you set it up, make the housing cut so the long axle side uses your existing axle length. The Pinion offset will result in the other side being shorter. Thus the shorter housing. Doug
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