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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1515491
10/12/13 02:39 AM
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Hi,
I would just brace a stock 8 3/4" housing and keep racing!
I run a 68 barracuda with a braced 8 3/4" housing and ALum. Centre section, and really good gun drilled 28spline axles and run mid nines with no trans brake and never had issues, plus the car 60's in the mid/low 1.30's!!
If I were you I wouldn't go the Dana way, those are for tanks!!
When you put your new diff in(whatever you go with) make sure you get a 4 wheel alignment, that's probably more your issue why your diff went south!!
Just my two cense!!

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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Cab_Burge] #1515492
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Some Ford 1/2Ts from about 64 -72(?) used the Dana 60 when a locking axle was ordered. I have a 69-70 D60 in my 66 F-100, but can't remember the specs (tube diameter, width). My 69 Fargo service manual shows 5 bolt D60s, but I can't remember if I've ever seen one.

Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: rustbuckett68] #1515493
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hi, the 1967 to 72 ford 1/2 ton pickups had dana 60 rearends. it has 3 " tubes, is the lightest housing. cut ends of and weld on mopar ends
I put one in a duster with fourspeed, its never givin me any trouble.
I had to buy a spool, gears and yoke to make it fit. very simple change over. also, it has passenger car ends.with flanged axles.

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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: perfmachst] #1515494
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The 8 3/4 Moser fab housing is a nice piece BUT they are a pain in a A-body with a stock fuel tank and fuel lines, everything is very tight.
Also if you have the tubes braced on the Moser you will need to have the braces notched so the shocks fit.

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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Darryls-Demon] #1515495
10/12/13 02:58 PM
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I was in your shoes last fall OP, I spent a day with my housing in a press and checked it with a jig then I built a tubular back brace and a smaller diameter tube under the housing that ties the pumpkin to my boxed in spring perches. This thing is STRONG!!!! Then you can get after it and tune that chassis

Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Darryls-Demon] #1515496
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The 8 3/4 Moser fab housing is a nice piece BUT they are a pain in a A-body with a stock fuel tank and fuel lines, everything is very tight.
Also if you have the tubes braced on the Moser you will need to have the braces notched so the shocks fit.


That's what i use

if u were closer i'll buy that center sec.

Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: racerx] #1515497
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Strange S-60 housing $569.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: 72Swinger] #1515498
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$1800 will buy a new, bolt in S-60 Dana 60 assembly built with 1350 yoke, 35 spline race axles and a spool.

It weighs about the same as a comparable 9" rear, but costs less and consumes less HP.

Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #1515499
10/12/13 06:16 PM
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8 3/4" housing and ALum. Centre section, and really good gun drilled 28spline axles and run mid nines




Sorry OT, I'd love to know more details on your "gun drilled axles"


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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: DusterKid] #1515500
10/12/13 08:30 PM
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put a dana in it and forget about having issues with your rear...


I put a 9" in my car only because I can swap out the carrier at the track if I have to and parts are easy to get. again I wouldn't sink money into an 8.75 with anything over 450hp and definitely not with a stick car!


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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: jcc] #1515501
10/12/13 09:06 PM
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8 3/4" housing and ALum. Centre section, and really good gun drilled 28spline axles and run mid nines




Sorry OT, I'd love to know more details on your "gun drilled axles"



Me too why would you drill a 28 spline axle
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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1515502
10/13/13 03:37 AM
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Hi,
My whole car is all weight revolved!! So I ordered mark Williams 28 spline good axles and had them machine out then heat treated!! Plus ring gear is cut back for weight!Killer strong and could put any centre section gear swap in anytime! Run a Detroit locker as well, no spool. Car is a true street car!
Helps that I have a good friend that does this kinda stuff!!
All steal body with stock glass, but sneaky lighting parts to make the car lighter, but look stock!!
Lol, it's just me!!!

Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #1515503
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Hi,
My whole car is all weight revolved!! So I ordered mark Williams 28 spline good axles and had them machine out then heat treated!! Plus ring gear is cut back for weight!Killer strong and could put any centre section gear swap in anytime! Run a Detroit locker as well, no spool. Car is a true street car!
Helps that I have a good friend that does this kinda stuff!!
All steal body with stock glass, but sneaky lighting parts to make the car lighter, but look stock!!
Lol, it's just me!!!


I've never heard of any 28 spline Mopar axles for 8 3/4, let alone a 28 spline spool for the Mopar 8 3/4. Ford nine inch yes, but not Mopar 8 3/4 Your not a keyboard racer, car builder are you


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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Cab_Burge] #1515504
10/13/13 12:18 PM
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I went with a Dana.....
With the engine dynoed at 606hp, I''ll be sure it won't happen again !

If I add a 200hp shot of nitrous, that will be a killer on the 8 3/4 for sure.

I won't go there again

Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Wedgeman] #1515505
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I went with a Dana.....
With the engine dynoed at 606hp, I''ll be sure it won't happen again !

If I add a 200hp shot of nitrous, that will be a killer on the 8 3/4 for sure.

I won't go there again


Good choice


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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Cab_Burge] #1515506
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Can someone explain the differences between 2-series and 3-series gears ?

Hope I won't run into any problems putting a spool and 4.56 gear !

Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Wedgeman] #1515507
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The difference is in the thickness of the ring gear. You will need to specify the ratio to the spool vendor, so that you get the right one. In the old days, we used a spacer with the stock PowerLock carrier to space the truck (4.88) gears closer to the pinion center line. A weak solution as eventually the longer ring gear bolts would loosen and cause mischief. But then we also used OEM axles and they began to show twisting signs


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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Wedgeman] #1515508
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Can someone explain the differences between 2-series and 3-series gears ?

Hope I won't run into any problems putting a spool and 4.56 gear !


Dana 60 never came with a two sereis gear, only down to 3:54.The Dana 61 came with 3.30 gears. The two most common Dana 60 carriers and spools are three series or four sereis, the three sereis works on 3:54 to 4:10 stock Dana brand gears and on the U.S.(Strange house brand also)4:30 ratio. The four sereis works on 4:56 and above on most Dana gears and most after market gear sets, not all though When it comes time for you to buy a spool and gears make sure they are matched (same manufacturer if possible or same vendor )and intended to be ran with each other I just went through the hassle of trying to find out what U.S. Gears, 4:30 ratio, fit on which sereis 40 spline spool U.S Gear reps didn't know, U.S. Engr. didn't know They said to call Strange, Strange had already told me to call U.S. Gears I ended up calling a guy in Montana that use to own a rear end shop(J&S) in SO CA years ago and he said that the U.S. 4:30 gear sets will only fit the 4 sereis 40 spline Moser spools I bought a new one(40 spline steel spool) but I haven't swapped the 5:13 and Mark Willaims aluminum five seresi spool out of my new race car yet for the 4:30 and new steel spool, so I'm hoping he's correct IHTHs


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Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: Cab_Burge] #1515509
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Sorry,
my mistake meant to say 30spline axles!


Re: 8 3/4 axle twisted [Re: mr. 63plymouth] #1515510
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Sorry,
my mistake meant to say 30spline axles!




I thought maybe you might be confusing the Ford nine inch parts with the 8 3/4 parts


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