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Re: Best oil filter
[Re: moparmikethree]
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yes Wix gets good reviews (on here) regularly. More info on what was happening with your prior ones collapsing
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Re: Best oil filter
[Re: moparmikethree]
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10/09/13 01:50 AM
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The best oil filter is the Donaldson P169071 High Efficiency Industrial. Cost is roughly three-times that of a Fram PH8A. You get what you pay for - 
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Re: Best oil filter
[Re: RapidRobert]
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10/09/13 12:43 PM
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The best oil filter is the Donaldson P169071 High Efficiency Industrial.
Who carries it & is it designed for racing or just more for high efficiency filtering?
Try your local Kaman Industrial supply house or there's places on-line like this - http://www.filterspro.com/detail.cfm?part=1700215
It's not designed for racing per say but it's a heavy-duty constructed oil filter.
That white filter media you see in the pic. That's Donaldson's proprietary Synteq Nano-glass filter media. It flows and filters significantly better than filters constructed with paper media or synthetic/paper blend.
It has a relief valve setting of 8-11 PSI, though it likely has a reduced likelihood of opening because of the superior flow characteristics of the filter media.
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Re: Best oil filter
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10/09/13 03:33 PM
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Cost is roughly three-times that of a Fram PH8A.
You get what you pay for -
When is good, good enough? I'm sure there's a filter on the space shuttle we could adapt. Funny how millions of cars get by. You'd think there is an epidemic of engine failures from all these cheaply made faulty filters.
But hey, it's your money, do what makes you feel good.
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Re: Best oil filter
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Cost is roughly three-times that of a Fram PH8A.
You get what you pay for -
When is good, good enough? I'm sure there's a filter on the space shuttle we could adapt. Funny how millions of cars get by. You'd think there is an epidemic of engine failures from all these cheaply made faulty filters.
But hey, it's your money, do what makes you feel good.
Sure!
How many cubic inches is enough?
How much horsepower is enough?
Subjective questions.
The title of this thread, "Best oil filter".
How much filtering performance is enough?
Again, subjective.
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Re: Best oil filter
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How much filtering performance is enough?
CS ....just how much is REALLY NEEDED .... uNless your motor is coming apart ? ... have you ever cut apart a filter .... after one ...two ...three ...even TEN oil changes(after using the same filter) ?
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Re: Best oil filter
[Re: dOc !]
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How much filtering performance is enough?
CS ....just how much is REALLY NEEDED .... uNless your motor is coming apart ? ... have you ever cut apart a filter .... after one ...two ...three ...even TEN oil changes(after using the same filter) ?
One could buy the orange can from the big box store for four bucks and the engine will likely outlast the vehicle.
However, the question was not what oil filter will get me by. The question by the OP is "need the best filter"?
I answered the question.
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Re: Best oil filter
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...so you insinuate that these high dollar and uNnecessary neon-lite-up filters are off the deep-end toooooo ? 
Not at all.
I pay three-times as much for the Donaldson but I use it four-times longer than what a typical entry-level filter would be used.
The Donaldson is a heavy-duty endurance filter. So I'm using it for what it's designed for. Plus I've got a better flowing, better filtering filter throughout the run.
It's what I consider value-per-dollar.
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Re: Best oil filter
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oil filters were originally there to prolong piston ring life
now oil filters allow hydraulic lifters to continue to operate
journal bearings are much more tolerant of particles in the oil, particularly carbon particles
i have never read a scientific paper that clearly shows whether finely filtered oil is the dominating factor that prolongs piston ring and bore wall wear rates,
or whether it is the film strength of the lube oil that dominates
i have read scientific papers from aircraft engine maker Continental that claimed that coolant temperatures around 200 F keep corrosive chemicals in the exhaust hot enough to be gases rather than hot liquid acids, and that this reduces corrosion and prolongs bore wall life
An SAE study showed a correlation in engine wear rates between oil filters of varying efficiencies.
For the Diesel study, the results were in terms of Piston Pin, Compression Ring #3, Main Bearings and Rod Bearings.
For the Gasoline engine study, the results were in terms of Upper Main Bearing, Lower Main Bearing, Upper Rod Bearing, and Lower Rod Bearing.
Just because an engine can last 250k with just about any oil filter you throw at it, doesn’t mean it’s optimized.
References: Staley, David R. “Correlating Lube Oil Filtration Efficiencies with Engine Wear,” SAE 881825 - Link HERE
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I do want my oil filtered, not bypassed 
I found out on a fuel filter that the finer the filter media the harder it is for the pump to suck fuel through it 
I would find out why before running that motor again 
that "is" exactly the Question....however, to much oil pressure ,to heavy of weight of oil with a a cheap fine paper filter element @ cold temps and or improper bypass systems are the main causes for filter imploding - which was perceived to be a bad filter ... which I think ,led to this question.. I know, I paid my dues to learn.