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Torsion Bar removal tool? #1473435
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do they sell a special tool to remove torsion bars, I believe I have seen something for this procedure for sale somewhere. Can you help point me in the right direction


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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #1473436
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Loosen the adjuster nut, loosen the lca nut but leave it on by about 5 threads. Then use a pry bar to move the LCA and therefore the TB back. Then tap the LCA off the TB and she's out.

Sheldon

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #1473437
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if you are going to junk the old ones just clamp a vice-grip on there and wail it - works but damages the bar. otherwise a clamp-type tool is available, I think I gave mine to mperry after I used it years ago. Many here have made good tools for this tho.


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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: DirectSubjection] #1473438
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Yep still have it and it has come in handy quite a few times.

I didn't expect you to give it to me so if you need it back let me know.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: MPerry] #1473439
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heard of using a bicycle handlebar clamp/steering stem clamped on to the torsion bar and of course a BFH


Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: MPerry] #1473440
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Yep still have it and it has come in handy quite a few times.

I didn't expect you to give it to me so if you need it back let me know.




Nah -enjoy removing bars with it


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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: MPerry] #1473441
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Yep still have it and it has come in handy quite a few times.

I didn't expect you to give it to me so if you need it back let me know.




If it is good for squishing spiders, can I borrow it next?







(PS as for torsion bars, I never needed a tool either, just moved the control arm back enough to get the bar to move, then just slide it out by hand the rest of the way)

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: OzHemi] #1473442
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If it is good for squishing spiders, can I borrow it next?






I don't think you could get close enough to use it with any accuracy.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1473443
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Loosen the adjuster nut, loosen the lca nut but leave it on by about 5 threads. Then use a pry bar to move the LCA and therefore the TB back. Then tap the LCA off the TB and she's out.

Sheldon




X2^ Very easy, no tool needed.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: Lefty] #1473444
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In case moving the lower control arm back doesn't get it, you can use a couple of 1" wire rope clamps tightened back to back on the 'bar. Then you can bang on them and not hurt the 'bar.


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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: Lefty] #1473445
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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: 70AARcuda] #1473446
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Get the tool AARcuda mentioned, works great, won't mess up the old bars,

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #1473447
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less than $5 in junk from the local big box store and a piece of scrap...



Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: rtplumcrazy1] #1473448
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Yes, there is a tool called out in the service manual. Most Mopar parts places will carry a version of it.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: AndyF] #1473449
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I have been making them for years. They are made from 1"X 1" steel with a knurled handle. .The tool uses 4 contact points to clamp on the bar (the factory tool only has 3. Also the tool has 2 3/8 grade 8 bolts instead of the factory 1/4 inch bolts. I have them available here http://www.custommachinecomponents.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?page=3&id=8

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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: johnscudashop] #1473451
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I have been making them for years. They are made from 1"X 1" steel with a knurled handle. .The tool uses 4 contact points to clamp on the bar (the factory tool only has 3. Also the tool has 2 3/8 grade 8 bolts instead of the factory 1/4 inch bolts. I have them available here http://www.custommachinecomponents.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?page=3&id=8




I'm going to simply say this. Your tool worked for me when all the DIY Mickey Mouse methods were just a waste of time. My T-bars were IN THERE!!
Nice product. Thanks.

BTW, I learned something when using this tool. You really, REALLY (!!!) to need to crank down on the bolts to way beyond the tightness you think you need. Those GR 8's can take it. Then it works like a charm with the handy old BFH.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: Commando1] #1473452
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I had a car in the shop the other day and both torsion bars had been twisted out of shape. I had to really beat on those bars to get them out of there. A lightweight tool wasn't up to the task, had to use the real deal.

On a car that hasn't been abused, doesn't see any salt, is always kept lubed and garaged is a different issue. The bars will usually slide right out once they are unloaded.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: AndyF] #1473453
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I also have one of those factory Miller Special Tools, torsion bar removal tool.
It's a heavy duty, well manufactured tool, for the removal of some really stuck torsion bars.
Without that tool i wouldn't have been able to get some bars out of cars, that i had to work on at the shop, or wrecking yards.
Yes, sometimes the home made, Mickey mouse, tool may work for you, but in a lot of instances they won't.
And by the way, the Miller tool uses big,1/2 diameter bolts, and not 1/4 inch, like one other poster wrote about, for his tool.
Have no idea where he came up with that kind of measurement.
Mine has been beat on many times, to get stuck bars out out their mounts.

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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: A12] #1473454
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Thats what I did, used the old motocross style one on the right.

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heard of using a bicycle handlebar clamp/steering stem clamped on to the torsion bar and of course a BFH





Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: GTXKen] #1473455
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Mickey mouse has removed every single torsion bar it's ever come up against.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: RobX4406] #1473456
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Mickey mouse has removed every single torsion bar it's ever come up against.




Then you have been very fortunate, and lucky, but some day your luck will run out.


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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: hemi71x] #1473457
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I also have one of those factory Miller Special Tools, torsion bar removal tool.
It's a heavy duty, well manufactured tool, for the removal of some really stuck toesion bars.
Without that tool i wouldn't have been able to get some bars out of cars, that i had to work on at the shop, or wrecking yards.
Yes, sometimes the home made, Mickey mouse, tool may work for you, but in a lot of instances they won't.
And by the way, the Miller tool uses big,1/2 diameter bolts, and not 1/4 inch, like one other poster wrote about, for his tool.
Have no idea where he came up with that kind of measurement.
Mine has been beat on many times, to get stuck bars out out their mounts.




Same, and I am pretty sure you can still order it from Miller. although the last time I priced it it was $85 or so.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: krisiesmopes] #1473458
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It's not surprising why many choose to post less and less at this place.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: Commando1] #1473459
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I have been making them for years. They are made from 1"X 1" steel with a knurled handle. .The tool uses 4 contact points to clamp on the bar (the factory tool only has 3. Also the tool has 2 3/8 grade 8 bolts instead of the factory 1/4 inch bolts. I have them available here http://www.custommachinecomponents.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?page=3&id=8




I'm going to simply say this. Your tool worked for me when all the DIY Mickey Mouse methods were just a waste of time. My T-bars were IN THERE!!
Nice product. Thanks.

BTW, I learned something when using this tool. You really, REALLY (!!!) to need to crank down on the bolts to way beyond the tightness you think you need. Those GR 8's can take it. Then it works like a charm with the handy old BFH.



Bought one off Ebay. Just slid up and down the torsion bar, never even budged it. Couldn't tighten it enough. Makes a good paperweight to hold instructions.


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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: RobX4406] #1473460
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It's not surprising why many choose to post less and less at this place.




Sure doesn't look like you have cut back any, with 11,000 + postings.


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Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: hemi71x] #1473461
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What's the distribution?

I'll stick with my home made tool that works for me. I don't need to rely on luck.

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: OhioMopar] #1473462
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I have been making them for years. They are made from 1"X 1" steel with a knurled handle. .The tool uses 4 contact points to clamp on the bar (the factory tool only has 3. Also the tool has 2 3/8 grade 8 bolts instead of the factory 1/4 inch bolts. I have them available here http://www.custommachinecomponents.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?page=3&id=8




I'm going to simply say this. Your tool worked for me when all the DIY Mickey Mouse methods were just a waste of time. My T-bars were IN THERE!!
Nice product. Thanks.

BTW, I learned something when using this tool. You really, REALLY (!!!) to need to crank down on the bolts to way beyond the tightness you think you need. Those GR 8's can take it. Then it works like a charm with the handy old BFH.



Bought one off Ebay. Just slid up and down the torsion bar, never even budged it. Couldn't tighten it enough. Makes a good paperweight to hold instructions.



That is why I emphasized:
"You really, REALLY (!!!) to need to crank down on the bolts to way beyond the tightness you think you need."
You only "thought" the bolts were tight enough...

Re: Torsion Bar removal tool? [Re: Commando1] #1473463
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Penetrating oil is your friend!! Unload them, make a simple tool and pound away!! No need to spend $50 on a special tool. Make your own! It's easy and more rewarding. Spend the $50 on gas for when the car's cruisable again.

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