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Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? #1443671
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For those that have dropped a 440 into a Dak, what oil pan is used? Modified stock? Pics?

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Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: Greg55_99] #1443672
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Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: 340SHORTY] #1443673
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Id assume a regular truck pan should work. That's a bit much for an oil pan

Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1443674
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Id assume a regular truck pan should work. That's a bit much for an oil pan




Nope.. The X member and rack n pinion interfere with the front of the normal truck rear sump pan .

Even the SB pan for the V8 Shelby trucks of this vintage was unique to the truck..

I was in with Schumacher on the R&D on this subject and also the conversion engine mounts.


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Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: 340SHORTY] #1443675
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No experience on the Gen 1 or 2 trucks, but gen 3 has the rack in the front of the crossmember. I put a 383 in my 98 and used a stock rear sump truck pan. Fit great with no problems



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Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: 340SHORTY] #1443676
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Just ask Katfish He had a Bigblock in his. First I've heard of needing a different oil pan for the swap. Even for a sb. If that's the case Id just raise the motor to clear

Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1443677
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Just ask Katfish He had a Bigblock in his. First I've heard of needing a different oil pan for the swap. Even for a sb. If that's the case Id just raise the motor to clear




I done a couple of these swaps. I move engine , trans back 2.5 inches and use stock truck pans. Solves a whole lot of problems and gets a bunch of weight off the nose. Just notice how far the engine sets away from the firewall on stock dakotas.

Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: kenworth_goose] #1443678
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Just ask Katfish He had a Bigblock in his. First I've heard of needing a different oil pan for the swap. Even for a sb. If that's the case Id just raise the motor to clear




I done a couple of these swaps. I move engine , trans back 2.5 inches and use stock truck pans. Solves a whole lot of problems and gets a bunch of weight off the nose. Just notice how far the engine sets away from the firewall on stock dakotas.




Sorry for the hi-jack, have you found an off-the-shelf header to fit with the engine now moved back? Did you use a motor plate or fab up your own mounts? Thanks in advance.

Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: WeeWillie] #1443679
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the sump area on a dakota oil pan is about 1/2 the size of a regular truck oil pan---for a small block just find the correct oil pan and pick up tube----for a bigblock you need to be a fabricator or know how to find one---either for the oilpan or cutting the firewall and tunnel for clearance....bob

Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: savoy64] #1443680
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the sump area on a dakota oil pan is about 1/2 the size of a regular truck oil pan---for a small block just find the correct oil pan and pick up tube----for a bigblock you need to be a fabricator or know how to find one---either for the oilpan or cutting the firewall and tunnel for clearance....bob


Did you read the above post? No pan fable needed

Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: WeeWillie] #1443681
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Just ask Katfish He had a Bigblock in his. First I've heard of needing a different oil pan for the swap. Even for a sb. If that's the case Id just raise the motor to clear




I done a couple of these swaps. I move engine , trans back 2.5 inches and use stock truck pans. Solves a whole lot of problems and gets a bunch of weight off the nose. Just notice how far the engine sets away from the firewall on stock dakotas.




Sorry for the hi-jack, have you found an off-the-shelf header to fit with the engine now moved back? Did you use a motor plate or fab up your own mounts? Thanks in advance.




I fab truck brackets welded to the frame, then bolt in with factory engine brackets and mounts. I keep it simple. On the small block stuff you can use dakota headers. On the big block stuff you can use engine swap headers. There no need for high dollar schumacher engine swap kits. The first one I did took me an hour to figure out and weld the brackets.

Re: Big block First Gen Dakota - What oil pan? [Re: savoy64] #1443682
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the sump area on a dakota oil pan is about 1/2 the size of a regular truck oil pan---for a small block just find the correct oil pan and pick up tube----for a bigblock you need to be a fabricator or know how to find one---either for the oilpan or cutting the firewall and tunnel for clearance....bob




There is zero need to cut the firewall on either the smaal or big block swap! Plenty of clearance to slide engine, trans. back 2.5 inches on both without ANY major mods.







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