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Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1438690
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Looks good, you may consider sectioning it a little to get the fit. Are those still available new? I couldn't find any. That's turnabout for all the issues you have to deal with over there. As a blatant threadjack, Do you have any particular details about the Propane conversion on the Dart? I'm considering going that direction down the road for my Barracuda. You can PM if you don't want to post it here. Thanks, Steve

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I vote please post any propane comments.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: Skeptic] #1438692
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The manual that came with the spoiler was printed in '78, the spoiler itself is a few years newer for an '81 Mercedes, so I doubth they still make these.

I don't want to 'spoil' the topic too much with offtopic stuff but the propane-system in my car isn't anything special.

Here's an older topic where I listed some of the parts that are used in these systems;
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rt=all&vc=1

One of the drawbacks of a propane system could be the heavy tank-weight which being put in the back of the car usually.
My car has 2 of these tanks for some added range but it sure changes the front/rear weightdistribution of the car.

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Let's add some weight to the topic by including and Imperial with a front spoiler to the mix...


http://www.imperialclub.org/Yr/1972/Wills/page1.htm

Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1438694
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LOOKS LIKE DAVID AND GOLIATH... MAMMOTH!!! AWESOME IMPERIAL!!!.. with rear disc brakes, too?



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Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1438695
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Just add little wheels to the cans...

That really looks like it would fit my 66 Coronet due to the "square" corners. I'm on a mission to find one. Thanks for sharing.

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Picked up the spoiler today and did a quick mockup.

Haven't quite figured out yet what would be the best way to mount it, but the size is very close to the car. Maybe 2-3" too wide at the most outer top edges. But since the material is flexible and can be bend inwards a bit, I don't think this will pose any problems.

Hardest part will probably be how to neatly incorporate the spoiler with the valance and lower fender on the sides.
Perhaps cutting off the upright 'flaps' to the height of the center of the spoiler will give more possibilities.

Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1438696
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Weight? That car would likely cause a tornado pushing that much air.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1438697
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Let's add some weight to the topic by including and Imperial with a front spoiler to the mix...


http://www.imperialclub.org/Yr/1972/Wills/page1.htm




Kenyon hasn't updated that page in years.

I like what he did with the Imperial but I don't like what he did to the Imperial. The interior modifications ruined it for me.


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Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: Skeptic] #1438698
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Are those still available new? I couldn't find any.
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Thanks, Steve





I did stumble on this though;

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/merc...ting-apron.html



Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1438699
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I did stumble on this though;

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/merc...ting-apron.html






Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: TC@HP2] #1438700
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Looks like a kit to build your own 190E-16V.



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I I'll pickup one of the Dakota air dams or fab something up. No time soon, I've still got carbs to finish rebuilding, fuel lines to run, put the finishing touches on the trans, finish in the stiffening kit, fab new brake lines from the master/ prop valve, prep and the engine compartment.... before I get the engine from IMM and deal with all the little touches from the engine swap, new exhaust system.....etc. Maybe next year some time

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Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: jcc] #1438702
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I vote please post any propane comments.




Propane isn't just for BBQs anymore.

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Looks like a kit to build your own 190E-16V.






A little something for the "more mature" crowd -

http://www.wingswest.com/catalog/Mercede...ont-Bumper.html


Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: Lefty] #1438704
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Pricing looks mature aswell

I haven't done much with my own spoiler yet other than trim some of the top-sides and do some mocking up.
But I have to do some more trimming before the spoiler can actually be positioned in a better location under the car.

I noticed on certain speedbumps here in town, my current 'McGyver' spoiler was hitting the road occassionaly.
Looking closer under the car revealed the reason for that.. it seemed the pass.side LCA bumpstop has finally given up and bailed the car which gives slightly more suspension travel now...

I'm looking to get 1" Torsionbars from JustSuspension to stiffen up the front end a bit more and will look into making a 'substitute' bumpstop by fabbing two adjacent pieces of heathose of something, mounted to the LCA.

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I'm looking to get 1" Torsionbars from JustSuspension to stiffen up the front end a bit more and will look into making a 'substitute' bumpstop by fabbing two adjacent pieces of heathose of something, mounted to the LCA.




1" bars will sharpen the turn in and maybe corner speed. On the other hand they may be too stiff for an A Body and cause understeer. They will for sure help the high speed stuff.

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I can't quite read that front plate, but I suspect it says "get out of my way"


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Let's add some weight to the topic by including and Imperial with a front spoiler to the mix...


http://www.imperialclub.org/Yr/1972/Wills/page1.htm



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300 with front spoiler


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Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: Lefty] #1438708
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Looks like someone has recycled the frontplates of his fridge and washer and made a spoiler out of it...


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1" bars will sharpen the turn in and maybe corner speed. On the other hand they may be too stiff for an A Body and cause understeer. They will for sure help the high speed stuff.





Been thinking about that indeed. My car also has a Hellwig front swaybar.
It's got 0.866" (22mm) TBars now.

One of the reasons I recently decided I want a stiffer springrate is because of the car's ride-height, the LCA's are located about 3/4" away from the framerails.
Now that one of the LCA bumpstops has bailed, I have noticed the LCA hits the frame now of then and the temp spoiler currently under the car tends to hit the road a bit more often on speedsbumps. The other bumpstop will fail soon.
The car is mainly used for hardcore daily driving where tackling roundabouts and speedbumps are it's main 'challenges'...


Re: Front Spoilers... [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1438709
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BBMopar -- What is your car/body? I assume you have a BB engine? BB cars need more stiffness to prevent dive, as well as lift and lean... you will ultimately use the sway bars to "tune" the ride, and choice of wheel/tire sizes and final "street" air pressure. You've mentioned interest in getting 1" TBs, but you will find the difference to be barely noticable... consider something a little stiffer (for hard street driving as you've suggested).. don't be afraid of TBs of 1.06, 1.10, 1.12... you wil NOT regret it and ultimately be pleased with the improvement for handling.. but it is a "package".. step up the stiffness of the rear springs/leafs as well, and get some good quality shocks.

Oh.. about the spoilers... using stiffer TBs will, again, prevent that dive that you're concerned about... consider 1.06, 1.1, 1.12.. especially if you have a BB engine.

(I have competition 1.24 TBs.. driving on the street is OK with 60-series tires.. hwy driving is fantastic... mount my 16x10 race rime/tires for competition autox and road course usage.. again.. fantastic!)



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