Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: retiredguy]
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05/20/13 01:54 AM
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I'd be grabbing that for myself before any second thoughts. The small block, 833od set up is rare to begin with (specific bellhousing) and is getting harder and harder to find. An 833od is worth quite a bit to the person who can't justify spending up to five grand and a lot of headache to put a 5 speed overdrive in an old Mopar. And, there's nothing wrong with the gear spreads either: I'm running one right now and it's fun as hell to drive.
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: Grizzly]
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05/20/13 05:36 AM
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I run 1 in myt shorty also. Wouldnt think of changing it. I think the people who knock them have never tried 1 behind a quick reving small block..
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: 340SHORTY]
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05/20/13 11:45 AM
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patrick
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I'd go back grab it flywheel back, and all the clutch linkage (and pedals even)...I'd be interested in the bell and maybe flywheel....I've got an iron case A833OD in my duster behind a slant 6, and the slanty is feeling soooo sloooow ever since I bought my '11 charger R/T...
it has about 1/4 the HP of my charger and only gets 1mpg better than the charger in my typical commute...
1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD 1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod **SOLD!*** 2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T 2017 Grand Cherokee Overland 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: patrick]
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05/20/13 05:57 PM
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If I am not mistaking, an '89 would have a 535 trans in it, not an 833OD. I think the last 833 was in '85.
In this case, you could still grab it, but it's going to have a pretty low first gear. it's not even remotly close to the more popular 833 trans, but if you gotta have a stick and its all there, go for it. Also if its a 360, it most likely will have the larger flywheel that needs the corresponding bellhousing to go with it--and will be balanced for a LA 360.
The bellhousing will have the right sized hole in it, but will not have the 833 pattern on it--just so you know for future reference. Supposidly someone said that some of the early bellhousings did have both patterns (435/535 and 833 trans) but I don't even think I have ever seen a pic of one on here.
Just an FYI...
Outcast Dodge guy.
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: Robbins]
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05/21/13 01:30 AM
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The wide ratios look great on paper but the rpm swings are huge, unlike an 833.
Ever skip gears in a 5 spd. It'll kinda be like that. 1,3,5.
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Re: O/D 4 speed
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05/21/13 07:01 PM
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jsut grab one from an 89 v8 short bed. hyd. clutch setup. 143 tooth flywheel. interesting bellhousing drilled for multiple transmissions. it is my spare now for the 72!
1970 Challenger T/A 1970 Roadrunner RM21 Vcode 1971 Gtx 1971 Satellite 1971 Charger 500 GB5 383 A54 car 1972 Satellite 1997 Dodge 1500 hunting rig 2014 Ram 2500 Mega Cab
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: Magnum]
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05/23/13 11:05 AM
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patrick
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Quote:
The wide ratios look great on paper but the rpm swings are huge, unlike an 833.
Ever skip gears in a 5 spd. It'll kinda be like that. 1,3,5.
it's not that bad, spread is similar to a 700R4....just have to build an engine with a wide plateau for a torque curve
ratios in the A833OD are 3.09/1.67/1/.73 700R4 are 3.06/1.63/1/.7
so if you shift at say, 6000 RPM with an A833OD, the 1-2 drops to 3240 RPM, the 2-3 drops to 3590 RPM....if you build a mild motor aiming for a torque peak in the 3500-4000 RPM range, with a little wider LSA to carry more torque up higher, shooting for a HP peak in the 5500-6000RPM range, it should be a very satisfying combo...
1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD 1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod **SOLD!*** 2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T 2017 Grand Cherokee Overland 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: patrick]
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05/24/13 01:41 AM
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mdwyer
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Not sure if the hydraulic setup is much good but took it any way. Patrick is right, I built the 72 Satellite around best gearing / tire size vs cam (bullet regrind) and compression. With 225-70-14 3.23 gears and a holley 600DP on a 360 magnum i get 21-22 mpg on the highway with very little tuning done yet. mike [image] [/image] [image] [/image]
1970 Challenger T/A 1970 Roadrunner RM21 Vcode 1971 Gtx 1971 Satellite 1971 Charger 500 GB5 383 A54 car 1972 Satellite 1997 Dodge 1500 hunting rig 2014 Ram 2500 Mega Cab
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: mdwyer]
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05/24/13 01:56 AM
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this is what i wanted the backup OD833 for. It is a porky 3912 lbs and I feel with a carb change and tuning looking for 25+ mpg on highway yet stil l able to really light them up when I want to.
1970 Challenger T/A 1970 Roadrunner RM21 Vcode 1971 Gtx 1971 Satellite 1971 Charger 500 GB5 383 A54 car 1972 Satellite 1997 Dodge 1500 hunting rig 2014 Ram 2500 Mega Cab
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Re: O/D 4 speed
[Re: mdwyer]
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05/24/13 06:07 AM
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I see posts where people are knocking this tranny as being weak, poor gearing ect. My shorty was factory equiped with 1. I changed the /6 for my warmed up 340 and have nerver regretted it. My power is good, you dont even notice the gear spread and the fuel mileage is great. Id do it again..
I am truckless..
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