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#14381 - 02/17/05 08:23 AM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need?
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No less then 10,000lb straps. Depending on what you have for anchor points on the trailer and car. And you want to crisscross them front and back if possible.
I have brackets welded to the rear housing that I can just clip my hook onto and tighten from there. On the front of my car I use the "tie back" version and also keep my winch cable tight. It will probably take you a few times adjusting the cars weight, etc. before you get it right.
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#14382 - 02/17/05 08:38 AM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: MegaDart]
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Get the 10,000 lb straps. I like to use only one combo tie back axle strap (no ratchet) in the front on one side(getting two of them tight is a pain) and I use an axle strap with with a seperate ratchet strap for the other side. Both get looped around the k frame. I use 2 combo axle ratchet straps in the rear. I also have extra axle straps and at least one extra ratchet strap in case I have problems. Make sure the hook ends have a safety latch that will prevent the hook from falling off if the strap somehow loosens. Remember loose straps chafe and can be snapped by load shifting. I have M&R tie downs- the car tie down section of their website is not working , just give them a call. http://www.mrproducts.com/

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#14383 - 02/17/05 09:41 AM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need?
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I use 10,000lb. ratchet straps, 2 front, and 2 rear. Crossed. No problems.
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#14384 - 02/17/05 12:28 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: amxautox]
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I don't cross in the back. If a strap were to loosen the car will move toward the tight strap if they are crossed.

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#14385 - 02/17/05 12:35 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need?
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dave , buy the 10k straps as noted and fit the trailer to your car , add heavy D rings where you need them and reinforce as needed the area where you add the rings .
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#14386 - 02/17/05 01:01 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: J_BODY]
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I don't cross in the back. If a strap were to loosen the car will move toward the tight strap if they are crossed.




This is illogical if you think about it. If the staps are not crossed or at least angled, this can allow the car to move from side to side even if both straps are tight (parallel arcs). If the straps are parallel and one strap loosens, the car can go still to either side. At least if the straps are crossed and one strap loosened (intersecting arcs), the car can really only go to one side.

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#14387 - 02/17/05 02:32 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need?
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I also have a 18' open. I have the 10,000 lb straps too. BUT, I wouldn't recommend tying the car down like this {see attached}. I want to get axle straps and D-rings installed. The hooks on the end of these straps are hooked on the bottom side of the trailer, where the ramps hook on. I have ruined 2 straps. They get frayed easily. I crossed the front straps. These ones are a little long, as you can tell. I bought them the day before this trip. It'll def. be different this year.


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#14388 - 02/17/05 02:36 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: KatFysh]
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I put the extra length of left over strap into the trunk and close the lid on them. Saves from having to unwrap them from the buckle and/or have them come loose and trail on the pavement.

I also have the 2' short straps that I wrap around the axle and the bar for the ramp. No sharp corners for mine to get cut on that way. Maybe I should take a picture some time.
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#14389 - 02/17/05 03:01 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: amxautox]
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I towed a car for someone once and the car had hooks welded to the frame that you could just quickly hook on to and go (instead of rapping around the axle or k-frame). I have been wanting to weld hooks of some kind to do the same to mine but someone has told me that it can bend the frame downwards from the bounce of the car going down the road. What do you think?
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#14390 - 02/17/05 03:09 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: BENCHRACER]
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I've heard over the years that the straps should be attached to the rearend because the car has it's own springs and they can work to soften the ride of the car on the trailer.

I've also heard that the trailer has it's own springs so the straps should be attached to the frame.

??

So I do it the way I want. The rear to the axlehousing tubes, and the front to the lower control arms. I've also heard that to do it this way the shocks will wear out quicker. Oh well, can't have everything.

Bend the frame? I have my doubts, but who knows? I don't. The imports from Europe and Japan have hooks on the frames of some of them.
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#14391 - 02/17/05 03:33 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: amxautox]
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When I used to pre-deliver new dealership cars {Linc/Merc} they too had the frame mounted tie down brackets. I have 4 of them still. I thought about welding them to my chassis or frame somewhere.

A freind of mine has some pieces of chain attached to his chassis at 4 points. All he does is hook the tie downs to the chain. Quick and easy.

I have ratchet straps with the big 3" wide flatstrap hooks. What do you think is the better strap end? The locking ring clip, a regular hook?? I want to have things better {read; CORRECT} this year while trailering. Let us know what you all have..

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#14392 - 02/17/05 03:42 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: KatFysh]
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you don't want the flat strap hooks .

tieing the frame down and the rear is a good idea , also if you are going to be towing a long distance it would be a good idea to add extra straps to the body in the rear as the front you usually have loaded if you anchor to the K frame , especially if you have a race car , to keep from over exercising your shocks
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#14393 - 02/17/05 03:48 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: JohnRR]
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This is what I use;



555-80122 Ratchet Tie-Down with Axle Loop
5,000lbs Rating
2'' wide x 8' long
Sold individually
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$26.99

and the short straps;



555-80124 Axle Strap
10,000lbs Rating
2'' wide x 24'' long
Sold individually
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$14.99

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=399049&prmenbr=361

from Jegs

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=3276&prmenbr=361

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#14394 - 02/17/05 04:09 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: amxautox]
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Quote:

This is what I use;



555-80122 Ratchet Tie-Down with Axle Loop
5,000lbs Rating
2'' wide x 8' long
Sold individually
| View Product | Related Products
$26.99

and the short straps;



555-80124 Axle Strap
10,000lbs Rating
2'' wide x 24'' long
Sold individually
| View Product | Related Products
$14.99

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=399049&prmenbr=361

from Jegs

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=3276&prmenbr=361






I use those too...and the straight straps.....can never have enough
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#14395 - 02/17/05 04:16 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: smokinwoody]
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As everyone else said, get the big straps... hooks on the chassis make it easier...

Kind of hard to see in this pic but look near the bottom of the 4-link bracket


Front strap hooks...
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#14396 - 02/17/05 04:24 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need? [Re: Bigcube]
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Here is a pic of my rear tie down bracket. Nice thing about the ford9 is you can weld the brackets to the backbrace.
You can just make out where the blue strap attaches...
I just wrap around the frame rails with the tieback straps in front. On the rear you must be careful to avoid damaging your brakelines with the axle straps.



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#14397 - 02/17/05 04:46 PM Post deleted by Defbob [Re: MegaDart]
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#14398 - 02/17/05 04:51 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need?
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Yep, but its top secret.

reduced unsprung weight, also easier to adjust my shocks this way.
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#14399 - 02/17/05 04:53 PM Re: Race car trailer tie-downs, what do I need?
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card table and chairs are an option...
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