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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: dustergirl340] #1415413
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I have never calculated nor even thought about my 0-60 time before, lol!





0-60 times are for the magazine readers and bench racers.

nobody cares about 0-60 until you start reading R&T, C&D, MT, etc. and they're trying to give you specs on the latest and greatest sports car to hit the market.


real racers care about 60' times. 1.6 is good. 2.3 is not.


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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: 70Cuda383] #1415414
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I have never calculated nor even thought about my 0-60 time before, lol!





0-60 times are for the magazine readers and bench racers.

nobody cares about 0-60 until you start reading R&T, C&D, MT, etc. and they're trying to give you specs on the latest and greatest sports car to hit the market.


real racers care about 60' times. 1.6 is good. 2.3 is not.




Yep!


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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: xyxxjx] #1415415
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I'm not %100 sure, but with a stock 400 in a heavy 73 Charger with 3.91's, maybe 5.5 or 6 seconds? You'd need decent traction, and probably a higher stall torque converter to get there.

Your goal is doable though I think. Especially if you go the 470 or even a 505 route since it really doesn't cost much more.

Speed cost money, how fast you wanna go?





I'm talking warmed up to about 400 hp.




400HP from a 73 400 is more than warmed up. Warmed up is a header, intake, carb, small hyd cam (less than 230*@.050). 350Hp is more realistic.

The 2.76 gear is fine, IF you have enough motor.

Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: B5 Bee] #1415416
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I'm not %100 sure, but with a stock 400 in a heavy 73 Charger with 3.91's, maybe 5.5 or 6 seconds? You'd need decent traction, and probably a higher stall torque converter to get there.

Your goal is doable though I think. Especially if you go the 470 or even a 505 route since it really doesn't cost much more.

Speed cost money, how fast you wanna go?





I'm talking warmed up to about 400 hp.




400HP from a 73 400 is more than warmed up. Warmed up is a header, intake, carb, small hyd cam (less than 230*@.050). 350Hp is more realistic.

The 2.76 gear is fine, IF you have enough motor.




Was going to add aluminum heads to the combo you mentioned maybe that's not considered warmed up, but would the combo you mentioned plus aluminum heads get me closer to 400 hp?


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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: 70Cuda383] #1415417
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I have never calculated nor even thought about my 0-60 time before, lol!





0-60 times are for the magazine readers and bench racers.

nobody cares about 0-60 until you start reading R&T, C&D, MT, etc. and they're trying to give you specs on the latest and greatest sports car to hit the market.


real racers care about 60' times. 1.6 is good. 2.3 is not.




What do you think the 60' time would be for the package I am describing?


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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: xyxxjx] #1415418
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Sixty foot time is the number most associated with chassis efficiency...aka hook. It's the quarter mile elapsed time (ET) that matters. A 12 second car will generally have a sixty foot in the 1.6-1.8 range.

Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: dustergirl340] #1415419
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Thanks.


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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: 440newport] #1415420
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Seriously? Drove From Memphis to San Diego with 4.10 gears and no overdrive.

NO PROBLEMS.

But it wasn't my momma's car I was driving either.




I'm not saying you can't, and I guess it doesn't bother some people. I have a '80 Mirada with 3.91's and long trips at 3500+ rpm and the loud exhaust get on my nerves after a while. I never had a problem but I guess I worry too much with the engine buzzing for hours like that.




I had 3.55's in my 5th ave and hated it....cruise at 75mph (5 over on the freeway here in MI) was ~3200 RPM with 27" tires and lockup tranny. my exhaust wasn't too loud, but my ears were ringing after 1/2 hour....adding an OD helped a lot (A500)

FWIW, a stock brand new charger R/T 5.7 will pull ~5.4-5.6 0-60 and 13.5-14.0 1/4 mile time...a brand new SRT8 charger will be about a second faster in each....

it would take a very pretty warmed up 400 with some deep (3.91-4.10) gears to match a stock brand new R/T...

if you still want it drivable on the highway, I'd look at adapting an A518 (46RH) tranny--the .69 OD would make 3.91's feel a lot like your 2.76's on the highway, while increasing your first gear torque multiplication by 42%


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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: dustergirl340] #1415421
04/09/13 02:22 PM
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Sixty foot time is the number most associated with chassis efficiency...aka hook. It's the quarter mile elapsed time (ET) that matters. A 12 second car will generally have a sixty foot in the 1.6-1.8 range.




Bragging...I have been .910 to the sixty foot timer many times.
and to 100 mph in 1.1 seconds, not 1.2 but 1.1 seconds.

So I guess that's about .6 tenths of a second to 60 mph.

Can you imagine getting on the freeway with that much speed?
0-265 mph in 5.49 seconds for me personally.
Oh yea the hemi is 12" behind my head, it's kind of loud.

Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: patrick] #1415422
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Seriously? Drove From Memphis to San Diego with 4.10 gears and no overdrive.

NO PROBLEMS.

But it wasn't my momma's car I was driving either.




I'm not saying you can't, and I guess it doesn't bother some people. I have a '80 Mirada with 3.91's and long trips at 3500+ rpm and the loud exhaust get on my nerves after a while. I never had a problem but I guess I worry too much with the engine buzzing for hours like that.




I had 3.55's in my 5th ave and hated it....cruise at 75mph (5 over on the freeway here in MI) was ~3200 RPM with 27" tires and lockup tranny. my exhaust wasn't too loud, but my ears were ringing after 1/2 hour....adding an OD helped a lot (A500)

FWIW, a stock brand new charger R/T 5.7 will pull ~5.4-5.6 0-60 and 13.5-14.0 1/4 mile time...a brand new SRT8 charger will be about a second faster in each....

it would take a very pretty warmed up 400 with some deep (3.91-4.10) gears to match a stock brand new R/T...

if you still want it drivable on the highway, I'd look at adapting an A518 (46RH) tranny--the .69 OD would make 3.91's feel a lot like your 2.76's on the highway, while increasing your first gear torque multiplication by 42%




Ok so more like 6 seconds with aluminum heads, cam, intake, headers, exhaust?


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Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: Mobarge] #1415423
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Go find some "back in the day" articles and get real. A 4000 lb car with a 400 is going to have a hard time breaking into the 6s without some really good engine and chassis work.

Put a stock '73 400 on the dyno and you're looking at well under 300 hp.

Just sayin'

R.

Re: 0-60 in 4 seconds [Re: dogdays] #1415424
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Go find some "back in the day" articles and get real. A 4000 lb car with a 400 is going to have a hard time breaking into the 6s without some really good engine and chassis work.

Put a stock '73 400 on the dyno and you're looking at well under 300 hp.

Just sayin'

R.




What would the chassis work be?


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