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Ram wild vents problem - SOLVED! #1406802
03/22/13 09:44 PM
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Trying to tackle fixing the wild vents on my 2001 ram 1500 4x4. I've done many things in tracking down the problems in the vacuum system and have had no such luck fixing it. Some things I have done and found

1. One bad check valve. Replaced with one from dodge, the new one doesn't seem to hold a vacuum its more of a restriction in the system in one side. The other factory check valve holds a vacuum

2. Found the vacuum line running down to the CAD was broken causing a full time vacuum leak. I plugged it at the t-fitting - going to eventually get the posi-lok kit and do away with the vacuum system there.

3. Cruise control hasn't given me any problems, functions as it should.

4. I have replaced all the factory vacuum lines with new rubber vacuum lines, elbows and t-fittings except for what runs into the vacuum canister under the cowl, the cruise control line and the line that runs into the truck for the HVAC

Any suggestions on what I could be the problem?


Yee-Haw! Got it fixed tonight! I went to oreillys and bought 2 generic check valves and put into the system where the factory had them. The first one is right at the intake manifold, right before the line that goes to cruise control. The second one goes right before the HVAC control inlet to the firewall. Currently it works so good that I do not have the vacuum canister hooked up and it still holds under WOT, hills etc. The line for my 4x4 axle disconnect is removed since I will be installing a Posi-lok kit on friday.

Here's everything I found wrong on mine

1. One of the two vacuum lines on the CAD was broken. Full time open vacuum leak. I'm guessing that it is the line that holds the axle disconnected while in 2wd mode.

2. Last summer I found one vacuum check valve broken. The one closest to the intake manifold. Went down to the dealer and bought one replacement and did not fix the problem. I checked both of them and the one I purchased was not holding a vacuum like it should. I may be wrong, but both check valves must operate properly to ensure that the vents hold their position.

3. I broke some various vacuum lines on the engine. I bought some various vacuum lines and t-fittings and rebuilt the harness coming from the intake manifold with 2 new check valves.

4. Vacuum canister wasn't holding vacuum (Either defective or cracked line to it) Currently it is unhooked from the system and the vents are working just fine. I plan on taking the plastic cover off so I can get to it and test it.

I want to replace the line that runs into the firewall and goes to the vacuum control switch on the dash but that will be later on down the road.

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Re: Ram wild vents problem [Re: BEINGmeISaCRIME] #1406803
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Are you using the vacuum check valves as listed in the official TSB?

These are about the size of the old 35 mm film cans because they contain a small reservoir too.

http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1996/24-01-96a.htm

Warning:
when i did this TSB on a 1995
i had to buy additional adapter fittings
to get everything attached properly.

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My truck came with 2 in the vacuum system from factory (AFAIK), these were the first things I checked. The one closest to the intake manifold held no vacuum so I went down to dodge and they ordered me in one. This newer one doesn't hold any vacuum, it just feels like a restriction from one side. The other check valve that is right before where the line goes through the firewall holds vacuum just fine.

To answer your question, my guess is that they are not the exact check valve in that TSB, but there is the 2 factory ones already in there.

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If that is the case,
I would replace the official check valve that does not hold vacuum from the proper side
with one of the smaller generic check valves from the aisles of an auto parts store,
such as the MightyMite or similar brands.

Adding an additional vacuum reservoir,
like you can see under the hood of various diesel pickups, might also be a worthwhile experiment.

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Quote:

Adding an additional vacuum reservoir,
like you can see under the hood of various diesel pickups, might also be a worthwhile experiment.




Just by adding another t-fitting in the line and plumbing it in? The truck has one hooked into the bag of snakes (vacuum lines) and runs right below the windshield. I did find the dodge factory service manual. I'm gonna look into it for testing and operation of the various systems on the truck.

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adding an additional reservoir on the far side of the check valve away from the engine,
so as to provide more minutes of vacuum reserve to the vent actuator while climbing hills

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Sweet, that'll give me something to look into doing. Gonna be a couple of days since we just got hit with a foot of snow - Only able to work on it outside at this time. Need to break out the ole and get rid of it!

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Solved!

Re: Ram wild vents problem [Re: BEINGmeISaCRIME] #1406810
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Re: Ram wild vents problem [Re: BigTerry] #1406811
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are we supposed to guess how you fixed it??


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Re: Ram wild vents problem - SOLVED! [Re: BEINGmeISaCRIME] #1406812
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Suppose I should have mentioned that I edited my very first post for easy of finding it. Guess it wasn't that easy

Any who: Had one bad check valve. Replaced both with a generic Doorman one way check valves. Rebuilt the vacuum harness in the engine bay with a decent quality rubber line and new t-fittings. Broken vacuum lines on the CAD were also a problem. Eliminated the vacuum lines in the system and added a Posi-Lok kit. That combination of things have got the vents working like they should.








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