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does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck #1406754
03/22/13 08:32 PM
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looking for towing information for 1985 D/W 350 pickup, trying to register truck here in pa for "legal" towing and need to have a copy of the page that shows towing capacity. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: Scott360] #1406755
03/22/13 08:55 PM
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PM sent.

found it in my book. what do you need to know?

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Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1406756
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You have to have a copy of a generic book? The door frame states aale ratings

Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1406757
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Its all about legalities here in pa, to register it properly to pull trailer I need to show what Chrysler says is ok, it really is a lot of legal mumbo jumbo

Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: Scott360] #1406758
03/23/13 08:09 AM
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Is this truck from out of state? The GVW is printed on the title and then transferred to the registration. Are you trying to raise it to 4B?

Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: redraptor] #1406759
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No this truck is already titled to me. In pa to tow a trailer (mine is 7000lb cap)the vehicle has to be registered for the GCVWR, in order to do this the state requires a digital photo of the door tag which on most of these trucks is gone, illegible, painted over and doesn't show the GCVWR anyway. they also require a photocopy of the page in the owners manual where it shows tow capacities. I do not have an 85 book. this is where it gets weird, the 84 book I have shows to tow a trailer over 2000lbs you need a v-8,auto or manual and a 3.2 or 3.5 ratio, the only other thing it shows is a 318 will pull 5,000lbs and a 360 will pull 7,000lbs there is no weight limits on specific model ( 150,250,350) capacities. the next book I have is an 87 book and it actually breaks trailer towing down by model, engine size and weight of trailer from a d100/150 318 truck at 4000lbs to a d350 360 truck at 9000lbs trailer weight. I am trying to register the truck appropriately to avoid fines etc. Until I can show all this info I am not allowed to register my truck GCVWR correctly which should be around 13,000 to 14,000lbs. kinda off topic its interesting to note the highest you can register an 08 1500 quad cab xt is 10,700GCVWR(5250lb tow cap) but an 09 which has the identical curb weight within 10 or 20lbs and the same GAWR can be registered at 14,000(8-9000lb+tow cap). a 2010 1500 can be registered a little over 15,000lbs. Its all legal mumbo jumbo and technicalities. It amazes me how difficult it is made to follow the rules.

Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: Scott360] #1406760
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the owners manuel only desribes the certification label. the picture of it is blank,no numbers.heres a pic of mine

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Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: slantsic] #1406761
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found this

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Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: Scott360] #1406762
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No this truck is already titled to me. In pa to tow a trailer (mine is 7000lb cap)the vehicle has to be registered for the GCVWR, in order to do this the state requires a digital photo of the door tag which on most of these trucks is gone, illegible, painted over and doesn't show the GCVWR anyway. they also require a photocopy of the page in the owners manual where it shows tow capacities. I do not have an 85 book. this is where it gets weird, the 84 book I have shows to tow a trailer over 2000lbs you need a v-8,auto or manual and a 3.2 or 3.5 ratio, the only other thing it shows is a 318 will pull 5,000lbs and a 360 will pull 7,000lbs there is no weight limits on specific model ( 150,250,350) capacities. the next book I have is an 87 book and it actually breaks trailer towing down by model, engine size and weight of trailer from a d100/150 318 truck at 4000lbs to a d350 360 truck at 9000lbs trailer weight. I am trying to register the truck appropriately to avoid fines etc. Until I can show all this info I am not allowed to register my truck GCVWR correctly which should be around 13,000 to 14,000lbs. kinda off topic its interesting to note the highest you can register an 08 1500 quad cab xt is 10,700GCVWR(5250lb tow cap) but an 09 which has the identical curb weight within 10 or 20lbs and the same GAWR can be registered at 14,000(8-9000lb+tow cap). a 2010 1500 can be registered a little over 15,000lbs. Its all legal mumbo jumbo and technicalities. It amazes me how difficult it is made to follow the rules.




this is what my 85 book has in it.

it does not show the break down on weight like the pic slant posted.

Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: Scott360] #1406763
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No this truck is already titled to me. In pa to tow a trailer (mine is 7000lb cap)the vehicle has to be registered for the GCVWR, It amazes me how difficult it is made to follow the rules.



I've reread your first post and this one and from what I got is your truck is registered as a half ton and depending on equipment is almost illegal empty.
Lowering the GVW to give yourself a break on registration is easy and I've done it. Raising back up or exceeding the GCVW on the title is another matter as you've seen. I would say that the original issue of title said 12K.
Going to 14k is also going to require a documented mechanical inspection and registration is going to be about $250/yr.

Re: does any one have an owners manual for 1985 dodge truck [Re: redraptor] #1406764
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truck was registered as 1 ton (8510 gvw), but not high enough,truck is not currently registered. in order to legally tow trailer it has to be registered at +or- 14000-15000 lbs to cover curb weight of truck, passengers, fuel capacity and trailer weight and load on trailer. to do this the state requires as proof the vehicle is capable, a digital picture of the door jamb label and a photocopy of the page in the owners manual which shows towing capacity of my specific model. problem is Chrysler didnt start listing specific towing capacities until 86 or 87, before that it is really quite vague. purpose of post was to find someone with an 85 owners manual to verify how chrysler listed towing capacities for that year. I will know more tomorrow about what I cn do without a door jamb sticker and without the required info in an owners manual. The state of Pa used to go after just the commercial trucks and trailers and kind of ignored the guys towing racecars etc, they apparently have started pulling over everything with trailers and handing out some serious fines for not being registered at the appropriate GCVWR.







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