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oil leaking out of new coil. why ? #1404568 03/18/13 08:41 PM 03/18/13 08:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 104 detroit,michigan C ctsuperbee OP member
ctsuperbee OP member C Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 104 detroit,michigan	hi guys, i installed new flame thrower coil on newly rebuilt eng. and ran car for first time breaking in cam 20-30 min. car ran fine and quit. oil leaking out of new ign coil made wire greasy and fell off. why would a new coil leak ? aftermarket 45000 volts flame thrower. i had same issue a few years back on a 440 6 pk motor and never did figure it out. do i need the inline resistor on the negative side ? i had it in when this happened this weekend. thanks

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: ctsuperbee] #1404569 03/18/13 08:46 PM 03/18/13 08:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,194 Harrisburg, Pa. screamindriver master
screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,194 Harrisburg, Pa.	Actually the oil filled aftermarket coils don't hold up laying sideways...You need the epoxy filled versions when mounting horizontal...

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: ctsuperbee] #1404570 03/18/13 08:56 PM 03/18/13 08:56 PM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	tighten up the screw down in the tower & that should stop the leak. Sometimes people get lazy/indifferent/overwhelmed on a fast moving assembly line live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: screamindriver] #1404571 03/18/13 09:29 PM 03/18/13 09:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon bull mopar
bull mopar Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 403 Western Oregon	Quote: Actually the oil filled aftermarket coils don't hold up laying sideways...You need the epoxy filled versions when mounting horizontal... Some coils are not designed to be mounted horizontally and will therefore leak if not mounted upright. If you still have the packaging take a look at the fine print and I would guess it says something about that. What I got was a black MSD Blaster 2 and peeled the label off it before mounting it in the stock position. Can't recall now if it's oil-filled but MSD said it could be mounted either way. Other than the missing date code and Mopar symbol it looks stock... and it's not leaking. 1968 Charger 383/2bbl/4spd (1 of 74) 1994 Dakota Sport 3.9L/AT/2WD 2003 Durango SLT 4.7L/AT/4X4 Yes, all Dodges and nothing else

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: bull] #1404572 03/18/13 11:27 PM 03/18/13 11:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 549 WV J JohnH mopar
JohnH mopar J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 549 WV	If it quit running the coil may be shot.

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: ctsuperbee] #1404573 03/18/13 11:52 PM 03/18/13 11:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal Sinitro master
Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal	Quote: hi guys, i installed new flame thrower coil on newly rebuilt eng. and ran car for first time breaking in cam 20-30 min. car ran fine and quit. oil leaking out of new ign coil made wire greasy and fell off. why would a new coil leak ? aftermarket 45000 volts flame thrower. i had same issue a few years back on a 440 6 pk motor and never did figure it out. do i need the inline resistor on the negative side ? i had it in when this happened this weekend. thanks Take it back... The round type, traditional coils use oil for cooling and it should not leak... Yes, it is best to mount vertically if possible for equal distribution of the internal oil.. Just my $0.02..

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: Sinitro] #1404574 03/19/13 12:06 AM 03/19/13 12:06 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Did you run it without the ballast resistor specified by the coil manufacturer and cook the coil and now it's leaking?

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: Sinitro] #1404575 03/19/13 12:13 AM 03/19/13 12:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,096 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,096 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Quote: hi guys, i installed new flame thrower coil on newly rebuilt eng. and ran car for first time breaking in cam 20-30 min. car ran fine and quit. oil leaking out of new ign coil made wire greasy and fell off. why would a new coil leak ? aftermarket 45000 volts flame thrower. i had same issue a few years back on a 440 6 pk motor and never did figure it out. do i need the inline resistor on the negative side ? i had it in when this happened this weekend. thanks Take it back... The round type, traditional coils use oil for cooling and it should not leak... Yes, it is best to mount vertically if possible for equal distribution of the internal oil.. Just my $0.02.. All the stock 383 and 440 as well as the 440 6 pak motors and 426 Street Hemi had the coils mounted sideways Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: RapidRobert] #1404576 03/19/13 11:25 AM 03/19/13 11:25 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Quote: tighten up the screw down in the tower & that should stop the leak. Sometimes people get lazy/indifferent/overwhelmed on a fast moving assembly line tighten the screw they quit leaking!

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: Dodgem] #1404577 03/19/13 01:21 PM 03/19/13 01:21 PM
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6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,561 Motor City	I have a red MSD Blaster 2 coil painted black mounted in my stock six pack mounting bracket laying on it side & have never had a problem with it yet. 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: screamindriver] #1404578 03/19/13 01:54 PM 03/19/13 01:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN R Rug_Trucker I Live Here
Rug_Trucker I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN	What's the country of origin? "The only thing to do for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" "NUNQUAM NON PARATUS!"

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: ctsuperbee] #1404579 03/19/13 03:07 PM 03/19/13 03:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,939 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,939 U.S.S.A.	Quote: why would a new coil leak ? Because it's cheap chinese junk , call whomever you bought it from and get another one. I have a flamethrower from back when they were USA made , a few years later i bought one and it was made in china , I sent it back without even opening the package and bought an MSD Epoxy filled coil , it was made in USA , but I think now MSD is now outsourcing also ... Good luck...

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: Rug_Trucker] #1404580 03/19/13 03:08 PM 03/19/13 03:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,939 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,939 U.S.S.A.	Quote: What's the country of origin?

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: screamindriver] #1404581 03/19/13 03:11 PM 03/19/13 03:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,939 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,939 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Actually the oil filled aftermarket coils don't hold up laying sideways...You need the epoxy filled versions when mounting horizontal... The Flamethrower I bought back in '99 , USA made , I mounted horizontal and it never leaked a drop. It's been sitting in a box in my basement since 2000, I'm sure laying on it's side , I'll have to see if it's leaking ...

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: JohnRR] #1404582 03/19/13 06:39 PM 03/19/13 06:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio J jlatessa pro stock
jlatessa pro stock J Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio	On the same vein, can one mount the Accel Super Coil horizontally? (the big yellow finned one) I've looked at the web site, but no info....thanks Joe

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: JohnRR] #1404583 03/19/13 11:04 PM 03/19/13 11:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,194 Harrisburg, Pa. screamindriver master
screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,194 Harrisburg, Pa.	Quote: Quote: Actually the oil filled aftermarket coils don't hold up laying sideways...You need the epoxy filled versions when mounting horizontal... The Flamethrower I bought back in '99 , USA made , I mounted horizontal and it never leaked a drop. It's been sitting in a box in my basement since 2000, I'm sure laying on it's side , I'll have to see if it's leaking ... I'm sure it's more a case of poor quality craftsmanship than anything...I went through the ordeal a few years ago when I was using the horizontal mounting bracket and had leaking pig...Then started checking into it...Why would a manufacturer even give a disclaimer on how the coil is mounted ??? Obviously they know there's a problem with the design... Then acted like I should have known all along about it...

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: jlatessa] #1404584 03/20/13 10:29 AM 03/20/13 10:29 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: On the same vein, can one mount the Accel Super Coil horizontally? (the big yellow finned one) 30 years ago I did (& no ballast ) & never missed a beat, ymmv live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: jlatessa] #1404585 03/20/13 12:11 PM 03/20/13 12:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN R Rug_Trucker I Live Here
Rug_Trucker I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN	Quote: On the same vein, can one mount the Accel Super Coil horizontally? (the big yellow finned one) I've looked at the web site, but no info....thanks Joe I had one in '77, vertical was what it said to do! I didn't run 2 resisters and it burned out my '77 model Direct Connection chrome box. "The only thing to do for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" "NUNQUAM NON PARATUS!"

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: JohnRR] #1404586 03/20/13 12:18 PM 03/20/13 12:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN R Rug_Trucker I Live Here
Rug_Trucker I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,610 Not2farfromNashville, TN	Quote: Quote: What's the country of origin? Chineeeeez? I have a Blaster II been running sideways for years. I heard they had some junkers. "The only thing to do for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" "NUNQUAM NON PARATUS!"

Re: oil leaking out of new coil. why ? [Re: Rug_Trucker] #1404587 03/20/13 01:23 PM 03/20/13 01:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio J jlatessa pro stock
jlatessa pro stock J Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio	Yes, vertical on the Accel super coil, got a reply back from them.... "Your request (#9830) has been deemed solved. Scott, Mar 20 09:29 (EDT): Hello, We recommend installing and mounting the 140001 coil vertically. Mounting this coil in any other position could cause a "dry spot" on the coil windings that prevents proper cooling of the coil. Please let us know if you need additional help. Thank you, -Scott"

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