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Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? #1399978
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Went and ran my 440 Dakota for the first time today. 59 Degree 4.125 bore/stroke, W9 heads worked by Ryan at SDSS. CR is only 9:1, was supposed to be a turbo motor, but was stationed in Italy so went away from that. Took it to Cecil today and went 11.25 at 118. 60 ft was 1.578, and 1.589 on the good runs. Running 26x10x16 slicks.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AZEXKCcUDQ

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1399979
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Not enough info to make a guess but off the top I'd be pissed with it. Maybe it weights 4200lbs with 3.23 gears and a stock converter and weak tune up,then I'd be ok.

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59 degree set up, not a 48. 3898 with me in it.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1399981
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I hope you need more gear converter and tune? Not enough info to make a good guess. Are you happy with it? Add the correct turbo 15lbs and make 1000hp or so.

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Running a 3.92 gear. 3500 stall. Shifting at 6800. Still working the tune. Should make 10.9's pretty easy.

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Yea, would like to change the pistons to make it about 11.5:1, but the wallet is not in it. Much less a turbo at this point.

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It looks to be making a little over 500fwhp,sounds low but if its got a turbo cam,low comp,tight converter etc there's more in it.A 250 shot would wake it up.

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255 / 263 @.050 668 / 668 lift on a 110

But 9:1 with the 3500 converter. Put down 460 to the wheels, thought it was low, but ran well today for the power level I thought.

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Is that the 11.25 run? It sounded like you were hitting a rev limiter at :39-:40. If so it should have almost another second in it.

Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: MPerry] #1399987
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As stated above, what run was that? Why did you hit the rev limiter for a while? Whatever that pass was, you left at least .5-.6 seconds on the track.

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Is that the 11.25 run? It sounded like you were hitting a rev limiter at :39-:40. If so it should have almost another second in it.




No, that was not the 11.25 run. I think that one was 11.91.

That is part of the issue, not shift lift. Hopefully get that remedied and I am able to shift at 7k. Possibly take it a little higher.

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Re: Ran the 440 small block Dakota - Thoughts? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #1399990
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What did your engine dyno? (On the pump not RWHP, just out of curiosity) Also, what did your 59 degree W9's flow? There's been a couple of posts on here lately about how they're a waste of time and to go with 48 degree W9's, so I'm curious what kind of flow you got out of them.
Your truck's 1/4 mile time seems pretty impressive, it's running LOW 11's (possible high 10's) with the aerogynamics of a brick, low compression, and an unoptimized set up (not saying your set up isn't good, but it probably could use more gear and convertor if you were going for an all out time, but I'm guessing in the name of streetability you made a compromise on the gearing and converter, as most of us would on a street car).
Lots of 440 wedge and Hemi cars running slower than you are. I think people see "W9" and expect 9 second 1/4 mile times

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Never had the engine on the dyno. Ryan did the porting, but never got a full flow sheet. I do know it was about 340's at .650 though. I did not want to up the gear, right now I am crossing the traps around 6000 RPM. Converter feels good, able to brake stall it to about 2500 with no issues.

Better to brake stall it or go off idle and let it flash?

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Wow wish I could have made it to Cecil today. Such a nice day. I guess you did not do bad for the first time out on that eng. Ron

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Wow wish I could have made it to Cecil today. Such a nice day. I guess you did not do bad for the first time out on that eng. Ron




Track was perfect, you could go and make a run whenever you wanted, surprised it was not busy.

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Track was perfect, you could go and make a run whenever you wanted, surprised it was not busy.




Really wish I could move south. Can't tell much on that video except it may be the same camera guy that filmed The Blair Witch Project.

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Here is a better one. Skip to 1 min and it is right at the launch. Hit the rev limiter again on this run.

http://s808.beta.photobucket.com/user/rtchas/media/VID_20130309_140300_zps68231e6d.mp4.html

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Probably the best video that was taken.

http://www.delmarvadodge.com/video/sam-0637

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