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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Slingshot383] #1383777
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my point is at 7.1 in the 1/8 he shouldn't be having traction issues. sounds like he wants to look cool? and at that ET he isn't dealing with a lot of HP. AND I am not saying that to put him down just to make a point.

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Quicktree] #1383778
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my point is at 7.1 in the 1/8 he shouldn't be having traction issues. sounds like he wants to look cool? and at that ET he isn't dealing with a lot of HP. AND I am not saying that to put him down just to make a point.




Looking cool is cool.......... nothing wrong with that, considering he will also make the car faster........

OP ... Sounds like your front end needs to come down first of all. Lots of good advise here....

PM me if you like... Your looking in the right direction.....

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: 10.90 Racer] #1383779
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Alot of recs on him to get new frt shocks,whats a decent shock for the money ? should he go for the QA-1 R drag or the calverts or ?

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Scamp408] #1383780
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IMO his 60's are slow, when my Dart was running 7.20s I was in the 1.54-56 range. I wouldn't throw away the CE shocks yet, I've been 1.38 on them several times, normally go 1.40-41.

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: justinp61] #1383781
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IMO his 60's are slow, when my Dart was running 7.20s I was in the 1.54-56 range. I wouldn't throw away the CE shocks yet, I've been 1.38 on them several times, normally go 1.40-41.




I'm betting your car would work better with a good shock..... if you go 1.40's with a 1.30's combo. it does not make the CE's a good shock....... Slower cars gain more with a better shock.....
But there is a ton of stuff to do here........ If you want a good working car....

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: 10.90 Racer] #1383782
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IMO his 60's are slow, when my Dart was running 7.20s I was in the 1.54-56 range. I wouldn't throw away the CE shocks yet, I've been 1.38 on them several times, normally go 1.40-41.




I'm betting your car would work better with a good shock..... if you go 1.40's with a 1.30's combo. it does not make the CE's a good shock....... Slower cars gain more with a better shock.....
But there is a ton of stuff to do here........ If you want a good working car....




If you unhooked the front shocks and the car picked up in the 60ft, would that tell you the shocks could be improved upon? Any safety issues if you did unhook them? Or would you run it to the 1/8 mile and let off of it?

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1383783
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old racer told me at the track 1 night that a well know racer told him to turn the bolt up on top of the front shocks a even amount .. so that night I tried it on 1 pass worked.. even though my car was in need of some frontend work... car would run 7.40 at 90 mph with a 1.67 best 60'.. car would pick the wheels up about 5/6" in the air for a few feet then sit them down and spin...

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: earthmover] #1383784
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old racer told me at the track 1 night that a well know racer told him to turn the bolt up on top of the front shocks a even amount .. so that night I tried it on 1 pass worked.. even though my car was in need of some frontend work... car would run 7.40 at 90 mph with a 1.67 best 60'.. car would pick the wheels up about 5/6" in the air for a few feet then sit them down and spin...




What does turn the bolt up mean? Make sure the shock is loose in its mount? Sorry didnt stay at a Holiday Inn last night...

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: 10.90 Racer] #1383785
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IMO his 60's are slow, when my Dart was running 7.20s I was in the 1.54-56 range. I wouldn't throw away the CE shocks yet, I've been 1.38 on them several times, normally go 1.40-41.




I'm betting your car would work better with a good shock..... if you go 1.40's with a 1.30's combo. it does not make the CE's a good shock....... Slower cars gain more with a better shock.....
But there is a ton of stuff to do here........ If you want a good working car....




My car is a street/strip pump gas small block that gets bracket raced. All the 1.38 60' have came in very good air, it will go 1.40-41 in the heat. Never said that the CE was a good shock, but I don't think it's a bad one either. I'm not going to spend $500 to pick up .02 or .03.

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1383786
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yes he told me to back the nut off a little and see what it would do.. it picked the car up some with just doing that... I would not leave it like that are run it much cause the nut may come off dep. on much you back it off.. I just did a few turns..oh I have comp 3 way on the front to.. I have took them off and they are very stiff when pushed by hand no matter what setting you have them on..now at the same time I put new control arm bushing in and ball joints and had it set up for a race alignment.. so the car itself could have been stiff as well but that little trick work for the run compared to the run before it..

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: earthmover] #1383787
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An old trick from an old racer a few years ago. Drill a hole in the shock body and let the oil out. Makes shock FREE. Probably wouldn't reccomend it, but it DOES work. DAMHIK


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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: CHAPPER] #1383788
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An old trick from an old racer a few years ago. Drill a hole in the shock body and let the oil out. Makes shock FREE. Probably wouldn't reccomend it, but it DOES work. DAMHIK




Dont do that... if you get on a bumpy track you can
get out of shape pretty easy... just buy some Calvert 90/10...
they are a pretty decent shock for cheap

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: earthmover] #1383789
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yes he told me to back the nut off a little and see what it would do.. it picked the car up some with just doing that... I would not leave it like that are run it much cause the nut may come off dep. on much you back it off.. I just did a few turns..




Double nut, or use a nylock nut...


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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1383790
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What does turn the bolt up mean? Make sure the shock is loose in its mount? Sorry didnt stay at a Holiday Inn last night...




Loosen it up to get more travel and its not compressing
the rubber to bind... but mainly for the travel.....
or you just put longer shocks on IF thats what is
stopping the lift

Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1383791
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baack in the day we just drilled holes in the left front . later we used extentions


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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: HEMIFRED] #1383792
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Yes back in the day we ran shock extensions, they screwed on to the top of the shock to give you about 2" more travel. Probably could use a long double nut with threaded rod to get the same effect. I haven't seen them since the early 70's.


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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: rowin4] #1383793
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mrg-1290/overview/... still available (check for correct size)

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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Dodgeguy101] #1383794
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old racer told me at the track 1 night that a well know racer told him to turn the bolt up on top of the front shocks a even amount .. so that night I tried it on 1 pass worked.. even though my car was in need of some frontend work... car would run 7.40 at 90 mph with a 1.67 best 60'.. car would pick the wheels up about 5/6" in the air for a few feet then sit them down and spin...




What does turn the bolt up mean? Make sure the shock is loose in its mount? Sorry didnt stay at a Holiday Inn last night...


You loosen the top nut on the front shocks and then push the shock stud down as far as you can before running it that way so the shock has a little more travel before starting to extend the shock OP, if your car likes that you need softer front shocks


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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1383795
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I run calvert front shocks.. love them !
CE did not work for me.
calverts handle real nice on the street also.

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Re: How do you get your front end to lift? [Re: 65_gt_rag_402] #1383796
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I run calvert front shocks.. love them !
CE did not work for me.
calverts handle real nice on the street also.




I would bet they are a decent shock. I have Koni spa-1's and when I changed to them, over the lakewood 90/10's there was a day/night difference......

In order of cost here are the things you can do to your front end....
1)Install your upper control arm bushing greased and loose
2) Install a polly lower control arm bushing ( stock one are a rubber press fit)
3)Try and get a min of 5 inches of travel ( front as low as you can get it)
4)Loosen up a set of Moog strut rod bushings (this will give More travel too)
5)Strut rods with rod ends. This is pretty huge!!! The PST look real good. (So do the Dillengers but I would not drive around the block with the chincy rod end they use.)
6) Front shocks Calverts to Afco's the more you spend the better.....

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