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What are the downsides of body lifts? #1378978
01/31/13 12:27 AM
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I just recently got a 75 Dodge Power Wagon. It is a 440, 4 speed with the 203 t-case Full Time 4wd. It seems a bit taller than stock, but I don't know what a stock W200 should sit like.
I was given a 3 inch body lift kit which consists of several plastic spacers, steel hardware and some rudimentary instructions. The tires on the truck are weathercracked to the point where I'd never trust them on the road, so I'll be replacing them. I may run 35s.
I've never installed a body lift, so I am curious about the mods needed. I figure that the hard lines to the master cylinder have enough slack. The trans and t-case shifters will just sit lower. Is the steering column affected? Do you have to clearance the bottom of the fan shroud? What other mods are necessary? Thanks, Greg

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1378979
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Clutch linkage, borgsen steering shaft is best to do now and makes the lift easier ostensibly far as the steering issue. Id consider dropping.g the radiator. Even with 3" the tires will most likely rub in front. If you plan to go wheeling off road they WILL rub. Post pics of the truck. What size tires are on it now. How many front leafs. Keep in mind the 4was ALL had a block in the rear so don't mistake that for a lift. If you don't want to drop the radiator Id consider an electric fan. Than yoyd have to lengthen the hoses. Also fuel filler extension

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1378980
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The tires on it now are pretty short, something like 31 1/2" or so. 35s are just an idea, I'll likely run what I can find 33"-35" at a reasonable price used. This truck is replacing my 74 Camper 9000 2wd that I use for misc hauling jobs. I also need a truck to push project cars around the yard. I will be doing some off-road fun, but nothing hardcore. A decent 33" tire may negate the use of any body lift anyway.
I didn't think about the fuel filler!

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1378981
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I did a Skyjacker 3" body lift on a 84 Toyota and did a little off roading in Florida. Even though it was nearly flat and in sand it stressed the cab mounts so bad that I pulled it after a year. When I descided on lifting my 79 RC salvaged springs and repacked the front and flipped the rear hanger and ended up with a 5" lift with 33.5s.

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: dhkennedy] #1378982
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IMHO, leave it on stock mounts and do a spring lift with steer gear mods/upgrades.

I had 3" lifts on a few,always shifting troubles, mounts come loose when off roading,ect...

I like a 6" lift with 17/40/15 ground hawgs,I used a droped pitman arm,raised steering arm,adjustable dog bone. swamper 39.5 are nice. best all around was the 14/35/15 hawgs with the 6" lift.

I used 12" springs in the rear to ditch the stock block with the lift block in the lift kit.

you could do a 4" front spring with the shackle flip in the rear for a cheap lift to fit 35s

body lifts are like open diffs,they work but not like you need them to.

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1378983
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Maybe this body lift kit is worth what I paid for it.
A guy GAVE it to me.

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Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1378984
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Im planning to put a 3" body lift object my wife clubcab and 4" suspension. I can't afford all the crap skyjacker and super lift DON'T include in their "kits". Heck I can't afford their kits either. So far I have $100 in the body lift $200 for the 4" rear springs and $0 in the fronts because they were object a trailduster and I made money on it. It'll most likely never get beat like mine will. It'll be more of a Pavement pounded. Also plan for a 518 swap with an ultra bell to hook to the 400

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1378985
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Maybe this body lift kit is worth what I paid for it.
A guy GAVE it to me.




yep,for sure I would use the springs with no body lift on that brute.

some 12" wide 4.5 bs rims,17/40s,6" lift with the nose slightly up,440 granny trany full time with 4.56/locker in the rear.

I would be putting a part time kit in the xfer with a set of happy hookers for 2x scratchin with just the 4.56 spining the locker in low range 3rd gear

have you invested in a 5 gallon pail pump yet??

comes in handy with 2 axles and granny tranny/exfer. dont you have 2 4x4s now? remember,the lowest bolt on front output shaft rear cover drians ALL of the xfer lube when you service it.

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1378986
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Did the guy ad the ramcharger macho tape stripe to the gate? Or is originally off a 77-78 orange macho ramcharger?


Avoid a bodylift esp. on a 4psd truck.

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1378987
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Maybe this body lift kit is worth what I paid for it.
A guy GAVE it to me.




Still not worth it.

Body lifts are garbage. I've had lifted 4x4s for 20 years, vehicles that saw lots of street duty as well as some pretty hardcore trail action, and I wouldn't use a body lift if it was free. If you want to lift it, a suspension lift is the only way to go.


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Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Kern Dog] #1378988
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Body lifts for the most part = JUNK

Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: NITROUSN] #1378989
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I've seen people use drilled out hockey pucks for body lifts I always thought body lifts looked bad because of the bumper gap and so on.


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Re: What are the downsides of body lifts? [Re: Silver70] #1378990
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Too high a body lift can stress the cab mounts and crack the sheet metal. I think a 1" body lift is OK, but I wouldn't go anymore than that.

This pic is of a Toyota, but I've see the Dodges crack around the rear cab mounts from 3"+ lifts before.

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I've only seen 2-3" available. Id rather run 2". I can always reinforce the area too.

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I've seen people use drilled out hockey pucks for body lifts I always thought body lifts looked bad because of the bumper gap and so on.




That, too. They look awful.


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Did the guy ad the ramcharger macho tape stripe to the gate? Or is originally off a 77-78 orange macho ramcharger?




Bob added that stripe. I like it, but it will get removed when I repaint the truck this summer.

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at my body shop I have seen many trucks not hit hard at all kill the body mounts to the point of no repair with 3 inch body lifts, I think it lets the cab move around more and in a wreck it gets a running start at the cab mounts and twist them.

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Anyone want to buy a body lift, cheap ?


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find a chebby guy with a 4x4 and GIVE them to HIM saying it does not work on your mopar. it was listed as going on a chebby.

after handing it to him...RUN!







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