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Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! #1378240
01/29/13 06:10 PM
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Just curious how many of you run a carb with no choke on your car. I have a carb I am planning to use, a Holley 4160 750CFM but it has no choke horn. Tell me your story.

Does your muscle car have a choke?
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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378241
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If you are going to drive it in cold weather then run a choke. If not it is not necessary as long as you don't mind baby sitting the car for a few minutes at start up. If you are going to run a choke the electric is the easiest and least intrusive.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Jeremiah] #1378242
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I live in the northwest but the car will rarely see below 50 degrees.


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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378243
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I just blocked the automatic choke open with a piece of fuel hose because I was too lazy to run a wire. It is more interesting in colder weather, at 18 degrees it takes three pumps to get things started.

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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378244
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No choke on the Challenger, Dart, or Duster's Holley carbs. But they only get driven in the spring/summer/fall.

Electric choke on my daughter's '86 Chevy truck that is daily driven all year.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378245
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I had a friend back in the old days that had a 78 TA. He was a big Herb Adams fan, he had opened up the back of the scoop and milled off the choke tower. It was fun sitting in the seat, pump it about 4 times, hit the key and see what happened. Usually it would start after once or twice, but occasionally you'd be rewarded with a belch of fire- pretty cool!
Didn't like it if it was below 55-60 outside though- he'd keep a can of ether handy.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378246
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Ran with my manual choke wired open for 20 years. Just had to pump the gas first and pump it cold to keep it running. In a minute or two it was ready to go.

But that sounded bad when I took it on vacations and would start it in a campground or something, everyone thought the car ran like crap when they hear me start it in the mornings.

So I got cable and hooked up my manual choke and it works good. Car starts better, just have to stay with it to adjust the choke as it warms up.

I fouled plugs letting it sit and idle with the choke on, I burned them clean after driving it for while.

It's not necessary the choke, but sure helps during the cold weather.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Challenger 1] #1378247
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No choke here, just fire it up and warm it up for a few minutes. Granted, it doesn't see below 50 degrees.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378248
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I run two carbs, no choke, in my cars. The colder it is the longer to warm up. If it's a cross ram, a real long time to warm up in just cool weather. A couple pumps and then fast idle by the driver.

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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: DANA60] #1378249
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I ran a manual choke in the 64 300. Made it hard for anyone else to start (or steal). Went electric for the 72 Dart and 65 Cuda so the wife could enjoy them.


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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Supercuda] #1378250
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Wow! I'm surprised at the results so far. vast majority run without a choke. I've never had a car that didn't have at least a manual choke but I get the pump three times and ride the idle warm up deal. For as little as my car will be driven, and in relatively good weather, it sounds like I'll be fine! One thing about the inland NW, guys with nice cars can't break them out until may or june because there's so much traction sand (more like gravel) on the road that it's nasty on paint.


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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378251
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I have ran several different carbs. and intakes on my Duster with no choke, six pak, 850 DP, BG 850 no choke, and several different Holley 1050 Dominator carbs. with no chokes. I do modify the idle and transitions circuits to lean them out but as already said once you get it tune righ it takes two or three half pumps on the accelerator circuit and keep at or above 1200 RPM until you get a little heat in the motor and it will idle Make sure the mechanical advance in the ditributor is shorten up so you can have between 16 and 20 degrees advance at idle an 34 to 38 degrres total advance at or above 3000 RPM and you should be good

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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378252
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No choke on my 63. I found out a few things over the years about this. I have an 850 DP and the DP are much easier to get started in cold weather without a choke then is any other carb with just one accell pump. Many carbs with one pump like AFB's and Thermoquads were much harder to get started with no choke. I can start my 63 in 25 degree weather without the chake. Hit the gas pedal 3 times and keep pumping while it cranks. Fires right up and of course you have to feather it for a few minutes to keep it running but its no problem. I start my car every few weeks thru the winter. Ron

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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: 383man] #1378253
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Electric choke:

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Jeremiah] #1378254
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No choke horn...

I say if you have it set it up right and use it and if not that is no big deal over 50 degrees.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: 383man] #1378255
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Quote:

No choke on my 63. I found out a few things over the years about this. I have an 850 DP and the DP are much easier to get started in cold weather without a choke then is any other carb with just one accell pump. Many carbs with one pump like AFB's and Thermoquads were much harder to get started with no choke. I can start my 63 in 25 degree weather without the chake. Hit the gas pedal 3 times and keep pumping while it cranks. Fires right up and of course you have to feather it for a few minutes to keep it running but its no problem. I start my car every few weeks thru the winter. Ron




This carb is I believe a 4160. Single pump, vacuum secondaries.

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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #1378256
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Electric choke on the convertible (street car.)
No choke on the Charger (Holley HP carb.)
At one time I had a Holley 850 DP with manual choke (no cable) on the Charger and when I went full throttle, the choke closed on me. Needed to put a wire in place of the manual choke cable just to make sure the choke din't get sucked closed.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: 451Mopar] #1378257
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All my stuff has electric chokes, even converted an ancient Carter WCD (on my Gremlin) to have an electric choke - which was no easy task!

But I have a friend who has this strange hatred of all things electric. He runs points in the cars he can reverse engineer and more than a few times I've watched him rip out a perfectly good electric choke to replace it with a manual one.

All because 15 years ago, he had a Pontiac Parisienne that had an electric choke that never worked properly.


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Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: 383man] #1378258
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No choke on my 63. I found out a few things over the years about this. I have an 850 DP and the DP are much easier to get started in cold weather without a choke then is any other carb with just one accell pump. Many carbs with one pump like AFB's and Thermoquads were much harder to get started with no choke. I can start my 63 in 25 degree weather without the chake. Hit the gas pedal 3 times and keep pumping while it cranks. Fires right up and of course you have to feather it for a few minutes to keep it running but its no problem. I start my car every few weeks thru the winter. Ron




I beleive it, many years ago on a Sunday when the Bengals went to the super bowl and it was really cold here. My DP 750 on my old rusty 73 340 challenger was the only car in the neighborhood that started. I ran errands for the old people who lived above my 1 room apartment. After that they seemed to accept me and my rusty noisey car more. Damn I was proud that day of my 150 dollar car.

Re: Don't Laugh. It's No Choke! [Re: Challenger 1] #1378259
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My Holley 750, and Quick fuel 950 have no chokes. Been running my Duster with out a choke for almost as long as I've had it. But out here in Calif., it's not needed much. Besides, the choke horn just slowes down the air flow. Need plenty of flow for .

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