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Manual brakes Question #1376828
01/27/13 12:07 AM
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I have a 87 Ramcharger, I want to convert to manual brakes, my question is on the trucks is there a firewall reinforcent plate when you have manual brakes like on a B body car ? or does the master cyclinder bolt stright to the firewall?

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Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: hemi_harvester] #1376829
01/27/13 06:31 AM
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Not sure but I believe theres a plate for the master to bolt on to the firewall in place of the booster. What do you have against power beraks? Power brakse replaced manual brakes for a reason...


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Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: 340SHORTY] #1376830
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I'm going to put in a Big Block and need the room plus I'm changing the cam so vacuum will also be a issue.


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Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: hemi_harvester] #1376831
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With an appropriately sized master cylinder, manual brakes can be nice, provide much better "feel" of brake modulation, and offers a cleaner engine bay without a booster and hoses for vacuum


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Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: hemi_harvester] #1376832
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that little plate is just to dress it up--it isnt substantial enough to give more strength---and hey manual brakes give you better pedal feel--i run 4 wheel discs with manual pedal on all my cars/trucks---in panic situations you are less likely to lock them up---power guys tend to lock up the brakes which means you are ever closer to loosing control--locked up brakes take more distance to stop the car--locked up brakes mean the car follows the line of momentum meaning you cant effectively steer the car away from the hazard....bob

Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: hemi_harvester] #1376833
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Quote:

I'm going to put in a Big Block and need the room plus I'm changing the cam so vacuum will also be a issue.




What size big block? B Blocks will fit with all brake setups. RB Blocks Need the small booster.
That's what vacuum canisters and pumps are for. I do know there's a plate as the bolt pattern is diff bit don't believe is not really reinforcement

Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: 76dodgeboy] #1376834
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Scratchy needs to chime in here. He changed his 88 from power to manual..


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Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: 340SHORTY] #1376835
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i have manual brakes, if you take off your brake booster there is a large round hole and 4 mouning holes for the booster, you need an adapter plate to use the 2 bolt master cylinder. scratchin made mine but its very simple to do yourself

Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: coronet1966d] #1376836
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remove the vac booster and use the foam gasket as a template to make a metal plate drilled for a 2 bolt alum MC

the manaul brake rod is 7" long and you can get the adjustable brake rod.

all I did was order up a MC for a 79 ramcharger,used the stock prop valve,with 11x2.5 rear drums,large wheel cyls.

spoon up the rears and it has a nice firm pedle and stops great with the 440 up front on my 88 truck.



here is a stock rod and plate from a manual brake truck,this is the set up I gave to John.

7564012-manualMC#1.jpg (100 downloads)
Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1376837
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my 88 440 truck manual brake MC set up.

7564015-manualMC#2.jpg (69 downloads)
Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1376838
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Re: Manual brakes Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1376839
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