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Magnum 1 piece gasket question... #136582
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Hey all,

I tore apart a 318 Magnum the other day for a core and I noticed it has a 1 piece gasket. Its the 360-style rear main, I knew that they went to that.

Anyway the rear pan rail gasket on my '75 360 in the 3/4 ton is leaking pretty good. I was curious to know if a Magnum 1 piece gasket would work on this motor and is there any advantage to it.

It looked sturdier than the early gaskets and I know that the gasket in my high-mileage 318 (193) in the '95 Dak isnt leaking hardly any. Do they seal any better than the early multi-piece gaskets?


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Re: Magnum 1 piece gasket question... [Re: MoPar Jamie] #136583
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Sounds like the oil pans are different at the ends?

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4657198

Re: Magnum 1 piece gasket question... [Re: MoPar Jamie] #136584
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The Magnum pan gasket will work great on an LA 360. It will NOT work on any other LA engine.

Jamie, there is a huge advantage to running the steel core 1p gasket. I've done it a few times, and haven't had a leak yet. I throw the old cork crappers in the burn pile.

Still a good idea to dap a little rtv at each of the 4 main corners though for good measure, although probably not neccesary.



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Sounds like the oil pans are different at the ends?

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4657198




These choicers in the thread above apparently need some clues.


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Re: Magnum 1 piece gasket question... [Re: flatlinedude] #136586
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Whats a choicer???

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Whats a choicer???




I dunno... pick something.


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Do you really fill the large gap at the front with rtv?

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Do you really fill the large gap at the front with rtv?




Large gap? RTV? You lost me.


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If you use the magnum style gasket with the 360la pan there is a gap that has to be filled. Look at the link posted by someone else above and let me know how you took care of it.

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If you use the magnum style gasket with the 360la pan there is a gap that has to be filled. Look at the link posted by someone else above and let me know how you took care of it.




I didn't have that problem when I put an LA Car pan on the magnum 360 that's in my demon right now. Didn't use any RTV, and I surely wouldn't run one cobbled up like that.

If you're talking about the pics with the gap in the front corner... it might help to line the bolt holes up, and torque it down.


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You haven't got a clue. Why post when you just don't know the answer? You see no problem with the pic you took from someone else that shows the problem? You should speak of something you know about.

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If you use the magnum style gasket with the 360la pan there is a gap that has to be filled. Look at the link posted by someone else above and let me know how you took care of it.




Engine upside/down on stand. Put gasket on block. Put pan on gasket. Loctite and start bolts. Tighten in pattern. Torque accordingly.

That my friend, is how I took care of it. She purr's too. No leaks... Yet.


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You haven't got a clue. Why post when you just don't know the answer? You see no problem with the pic you took from someone else that shows the problem? You should speak of something you know about.




Excuse me pal. But I have a running magnum engine in the garage, with an LA pan on it and the factory gasket. NO LEAKS YET. Take my word or don't. That's fine, but don't call me a liar.



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Cross your fingers because there is a large area of unsupported and unsealed area waiting for you. I think you don't have a clue and have never even looked at what your talking about,but that would not be the first time for you. Sorry mods!! If the original poster wants to contact me I'll be gald to help. OUT OF HERE!!!

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Jamie... sometimes you just have to try it out for yourself. What works for some, does NOT always work for others. Have a nice day buddy.



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from an article on a 360 magnum in hot rod a couple of months ago...

it said that you have to match the gasket to the pan otherwise big leak from unsupported area..

that is a magnum gasket with magnum pan...la gasket with la pan....the combo will fit all 360 engines...

copied this from hot mag...

Oil Pan Interchange
At the bottom end, the Magnum engines all use the LA-series 360 rear oil-pan relief. Any 360 oil pan will bolt to a Magnum. However, a non-Magnum pan cannot use the Magnum one-piece oil-pan gasket, as the early LA-series pans are notched at each side of the rear relief, while the Magnum is not. A non-Magnum pan will require the LA-series 360 oil-pan-gasket set.

written by Steve Dulcich


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Quote:

from an article on a 360 magnum in hot rod a couple of months ago...

it said that you have to match the gasket to the pan otherwise big leak from unsupported area..

that is a magnum gasket with magnum pan...la gasket with la pan....the combo will fit all 360 engines...

copied this from hot mag...

Oil Pan Interchange
At the bottom end, the Magnum engines all use the LA-series 360 rear oil-pan relief. Any 360 oil pan will bolt to a Magnum. However, a non-Magnum pan cannot use the Magnum one-piece oil-pan gasket, as the early LA-series pans are notched at each side of the rear relief, while the Magnum is not. A non-Magnum pan will require the LA-series 360 oil-pan-gasket set.

written by Steve Dulcich






I tried to use a magnum gasket twice on my 5.9 with a LA pan. Could not stop the oil spray out of the front at high RPM. I finally put the LA gasket back on the pan and never had that problem again. But hey, I have only been putting my engines together for 25 years. I may be missing something.


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