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Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake #1363718 01/03/13 12:23 PM 01/03/13 12:23 PM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	I'm putting an aluminum 6 Pack intake on my car and was wondering what the weight difference is between that and the cast iron version.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363719 01/03/13 12:47 PM 01/03/13 12:47 PM
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steve70 super stock Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 892 MA	I'm not sure what the cast iron intake weighs but aluminum is roughly 1/3 that amount. 1970 Challenger T/A 4 speed

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363720 01/03/13 01:25 PM 01/03/13 01:25 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: I'm putting an aluminum 6 Pack intake on my car and was wondering what the weight difference is between that and the cast iron version. some of us have been wondering that for quite a while; now you can weigh both and let us know! Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: steve70] #1363721 01/03/13 01:52 PM 01/03/13 01:52 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: I'm not sure what the cast iron intake weighs but aluminum is roughly 1/3 that amount. I had a cast iron 6pk on my 69 RR , when I removed the intake the front end lifted up about a 1/2" .

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: JohnRR] #1363722 01/03/13 02:29 PM 01/03/13 02:29 PM
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A12 Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,497 N.E. OHIO, USA	Quote: Quote: I'm not sure what the cast iron intake weighs but aluminum is roughly 1/3 that amount. I had a cast iron 6pk on my 69 RR , when I removed the intake the front end lifted up about a 1/2" . only laughing because it sounds true

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: DPelletier] #1363723 01/03/13 03:05 PM 01/03/13 03:05 PM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	Quote: Quote: I'm putting an aluminum 6 Pack intake on my car and was wondering what the weight difference is between that and the cast iron version. some of us have been wondering that for quite a while; now you can weigh both and let us know! Dave I don't have a cast iron one otherwise I would.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363724 01/03/13 03:22 PM 01/03/13 03:22 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Darn. Well, weigh yours and post it and maybe someone will weigh their cast iron job. I should have, but it's bolted to the engine now. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363725 01/03/13 06:24 PM 01/03/13 06:24 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,994 Oregon	I show the weights of a bunch of different engine parts in my B-body book. I tried to take pictures and get weights for all of the common "bolt on" parts.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363726 01/03/13 07:40 PM 01/03/13 07:40 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: I'm putting an aluminum 6 Pack intake on my car and was wondering what the weight difference is between that and the cast iron version. Cast iron = 38.6 lb 6Pk Alum. = 22.2 Lb However, if you are looking at overall weight savings, the three Holleys weigh considerbly more than an AFB/AVS, closing the weight difference gap.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363727 01/03/13 07:46 PM 01/03/13 07:46 PM
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MuscleMopars master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,697 North Central USA (MN-WI area)	Quote: Quote: I'm putting an aluminum 6 Pack intake on my car and was wondering what the weight difference is between that and the cast iron version. Cast iron = 38.6 lb 6Pk Alum. = 22.2 Lb However, if you are looking at overall weight savings, the three Holleys weigh considerbly more than an AFB/AVS, closing the weight difference gap. I think he wants to know the weight difference between a cast iron 6 pack intake and an aluminum 6 pack intake. Both would have the 3 2bbl Holley carbs... Thanks, Eric email eric@musclemopars.com 715-426-HEMI (Shop) 612-669-CARS (Cell and Texts) Go to my Moparts "Profile" to see my web site

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: MuscleMopars] #1363728 01/04/13 12:18 AM 01/04/13 12:18 AM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: I'm putting an aluminum 6 Pack intake on my car and was wondering what the weight difference is between that and the cast iron version. Cast iron = 38.6 lb 6Pk Alum. = 22.2 Lb However, if you are looking at overall weight savings, the three Holleys weigh considerbly more than an AFB/AVS, closing the weight difference gap. I think he wants to know the weight difference between a cast iron 6 pack intake and an aluminum 6 pack intake. Both would have the 3 2bbl Holley carbs... ooops, my bad

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363729 01/04/13 06:29 PM 01/04/13 06:29 PM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	Weighed on my house scale as pictured, it weighs 42 lbs. If aluminum is .39 the weight of cast iron as stated above, then a similar equipped cast iron intake should weigh: 42 lbs ----- = 107 lbs. .39 Right? 7533008-IMG_1943.JPG (219 downloads)

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363730 01/04/13 07:49 PM 01/04/13 07:49 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: Weighed on my house scales as pictured, it weighs 42 lbs. If aluminum is .39 the weight of cast iron as stated above, then a similar equipped cast iron intake should weigh: 42 lbs ----- = 107 lbs. .39 Right? No. Mine weighs about 39.5 lbs intake and carbs and fuel line (w/o kick-down and throttle bracket) So, using your 42 lbs: 22/.39 = 56 for cast iron intake. Carbs, brackets and fuel line weight about 20 lbs. about 75ish pounds total

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363731 01/05/13 01:10 AM 01/05/13 01:10 AM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	I don't think carbs and fuel lines weigh 20 lbs.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363732 01/05/13 01:17 AM 01/05/13 01:17 AM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	If the intake weighs 22 lbs without the carbs, and it 42 with the carbs, where do you think the other 20 lbs comes from? Okay, 18 lbs.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363733 01/05/13 01:21 AM 01/05/13 01:21 AM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	You're saying it weighs 22 lbs without the carbs. Do you know that for a fact? I'm saying I don't think the carbs weigh 20 lbs.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363734 01/05/13 03:53 AM 01/05/13 03:53 AM
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Grizzly Moparts Proctologist Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,999 Salem	Quote: However, if you are looking at overall weight savings, the three Holleys weigh considerbly more than an AFB/AVS, closing the weight difference gap. ooops, my bad Huh. No need to apologize. That's a bit of an eye opener for me, thanks for bringing that up. Six-Pack breather is no feather-weight either........ Mo' Farts Moderated by "tbagger".

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363735 01/05/13 10:18 AM 01/05/13 10:18 AM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: Do you know that for a fact? Nope, just made it up, 22.2 lbs

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363736 01/05/13 11:27 AM 01/05/13 11:27 AM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	Then what's your point? I could also guess at the weight of a cast iron intake but I want the actual weight. If anyone has a cast iron intake with mounted carbs that can be weighed then that would be close. Doesn't anyone have a cast iron intake that can be weighed?

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363737 01/05/13 12:59 PM 01/05/13 12:59 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Then what's your point? I could also guess at the weight of a cast iron intake but I want the actual weight. If anyone has a cast iron intake with mounted carbs that can be weighed then that would be close. Doesn't anyone have a cast iron intake that can be weighed? Didn't you see his post above giving the weight of the alum 6 pk manifold and a cast iron 4bbl ? The cast iron setup with carbs does not weigh 107 is what he is saying. I'm going to ask a real STUPID question ... why does it matter ? If the iron weighs only 10 lbs more are you going to trade the alum. one for an iron one ? The iron one is not correct for 69 ... if that matters ....

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: JohnRR] #1363738 01/05/13 02:15 PM 01/05/13 02:15 PM
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Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	well my math puts a iron six pack at 56 lb too so it's a big deal an extra 34 lb on the front and maybe more so R an R ing it in the car! Oh My back! Last edited by Dodgem; 01/05/13 02:16 PM.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: Dodgem] #1363739 01/05/13 02:57 PM 01/05/13 02:57 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Off topic, but I grabbed my 4326 AFB: 6.8 Lbs. Actually a little more than I thought. That puts the cast iron 4 bbl intake (the 178) and AFB at about 45ish lbs.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: JohnRR] #1363740 01/05/13 06:51 PM 01/05/13 06:51 PM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	Quote: Didn't you see his post above giving the weight of the alum 6 pk manifold and a cast iron 4bbl ? He was guessing at the weight of the aluminum intake. I don't want a guess. I can do that myself. Quote: I'm going to ask a real STUPID question ... why does it matter ? If the iron weighs only 10 lbs more are you going to trade the alum. one for an iron one ? The iron one is not correct for 69 ... if that matters .... You're right. It is a stupid question. I guess you've never asked a question whose answer didn't really matter. It doesn't matter, really. I just want to know. It's called education. If you took all the questions on this forum that really don't matter, you'd have half the number of questions.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363741 01/06/13 02:30 AM 01/06/13 02:30 AM
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scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	I put everything on my scales. I'm sure that I have had a iron pack intake on the scale but I can't find it in my notes. I'll get answers for you despite the fact that some don't think you need to know them.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363742 01/06/13 10:52 AM 01/06/13 10:52 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: Didn't you see his post above giving the weight of the alum 6 pk manifold and a cast iron 4bbl ? He was guessing at the weight of the aluminum intake. I don't want a guess. I can do that myself. Quote: I'm going to ask a real STUPID question ... why does it matter ? If the iron weighs only 10 lbs more are you going to trade the alum. one for an iron one ? The iron one is not correct for 69 ... if that matters .... You're right. It is a stupid question. I guess you've never asked a question whose answer didn't really matter. It doesn't matter, really. I just want to know. It's called education. If you took all the questions on this forum that really don't matter, you'd have half the number of questions. It might have been a stupid question but it's not as stupid as your attitude toward someone that gave you the actual weight on the alum intake . Here i found your answer , google search tab at the top of the page , intake weight in the search ... intake weight And it looks like BSB67 memory is a little foggy from 2010 because he said then the alum was 22.6 ????? Last edited by JohnRR; 01/06/13 12:06 PM.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: JohnRR] #1363743 01/06/13 12:10 PM 01/06/13 12:10 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Didn't you see his post above giving the weight of the alum 6 pk manifold and a cast iron 4bbl ? He was guessing at the weight of the aluminum intake. I don't want a guess. I can do that myself. Quote: I'm going to ask a real STUPID question ... why does it matter ? If the iron weighs only 10 lbs more are you going to trade the alum. one for an iron one ? The iron one is not correct for 69 ... if that matters .... You're right. It is a stupid question. I guess you've never asked a question whose answer didn't really matter. It doesn't matter, really. I just want to know. It's called education. If you took all the questions on this forum that really don't matter, you'd have half the number of questions. It might have been a stupid question but it's not as stupid as your pisspoor attitude toward someone that gave you the actual weight on the alum intake . Here i found your answer , goole search tab at the top of the page , intake weight in the search ... intake weight And it looks like BSB67 memory is a little foggy from 2010 because he said then the alum was 22.6 ????? Oh man, two ooops in one thread. Pulled the records, 22.6 lbs. it is. I don't know the accuracy as I don't remember which scale I used back then. Probably the bathroom scale. Three significant figures at 10% full scale is probably asking a little much.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363744 01/06/13 12:40 PM 01/06/13 12:40 PM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	Quote: It might have been a stupid question but it's not as stupid as your pisspoor attitude toward someone that gave you the actual weight on the alum intake . Then why did he state he was just guessing? There's always someone who reverts to personal insults. I could now throw some insults your way but that's not my bag. I prefer to keep my discussions impersonal and factual - not personal and guesses. But thanks for the weight of the cast iron intake. BSB67, thank you for the confirmation of the weight of the aluminum intake.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363745 01/06/13 01:25 PM 01/06/13 01:25 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: Then why did he state he was just guessing? At least to most, it was obviously sarcasm, in response to you calling my 22 lb for intake and 18-20 lbs for the carbs BS all the while you having no data to the contrary. When I share an opinion I present it as such.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363746 01/06/13 02:26 PM 01/06/13 02:26 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: It might have been a stupid question but it's not as stupid as your pisspoor attitude toward someone that gave you the actual weight on the alum intake . Then why did he state he was just guessing? There's always someone who reverts to personal insults. I could now throw some insults your way but that's not my bag. I prefer to keep my discussions impersonal and factual - not personal and guesses. But thanks for the weight of the cast iron intake. BSB67, thank you for the confirmation of the weight of the aluminum intake. I was spot on with my ASSessmnt of your response, but I did think better of it and removed the adjective as it was uncalled for ... much like your reply to BSB67 ... but someone quoted me before I was able to edit . oh well , you'll get over it ...

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363747 01/06/13 02:29 PM 01/06/13 02:29 PM
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moparcanuk OP pro stock Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,522 Orleans, Ontario	Well unfortunately, unlike most, I am not a mind reader. If you answer questions with sarcasm, then perhaps you should not answer it at all. I was seeking facts, not sarcasm. As for me calling your quote BS, if you read the post carefully, I did no such thing. If you call questioning one of your answers BS, then you are greater than all of us... at least in your own mind. I opened this thread seeking facts. I was answered with some that were helpful. But then I was also answered with insults and sarcasm. Not what I expected on a board of this caliber. There obviously seems like there is no end to this nonsense. So, being the better man, you can call me what you want, accuse me of what you want but this is my last statement on this matter.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363748 01/06/13 04:48 PM 01/06/13 04:48 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	Did canada remove sarcasm when they took the violence out of the roadrunner and coyote cartoons ??? sorry for making this stray and making insinuations ... Wait , board of this caliber ??? How long have you been a member ??? ...

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: moparcanuk] #1363749 01/07/13 04:17 PM 01/07/13 04:17 PM
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Mopar Mitch pro stock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area	I can tell you this, based on my small block: complete aluminum 6-pack setup, including factory t/a airclnr is 60 lbs. edlbrk ld340, holley 3310, ~15" airclnr is 30lbs. i like the 6-pack and its power/performance, but the frontend weight saving of 30lbs favors the eldbrk/750 setup ... (improved handling intentions spoken of here). Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: JohnRR] #1363750 01/07/13 07:04 PM 01/07/13 07:04 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Jeeze, miss checking in for a day and look at all the stuff I miss! so without reviewing everything again, the answer is that nobody knows the answer, correct? Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: DPelletier] #1363751 01/07/13 08:41 PM 01/07/13 08:41 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: ...so without reviewing everything again, the answer is that nobody knows the answer, correct? That's funny. Last edited by BSB67; 01/07/13 08:42 PM.

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: BSB67] #1363752 01/08/13 12:02 AM 01/08/13 12:02 AM
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jt4406 pro stock J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,567 Ky	ok, I have both: 70 model carbs and iron intake, fuel lines and linkage, no air cleaner...77 lbs 69 model carbs and aluminum intake, fuel lines and linkage, no air cleaner....39 lbs 38 lb difference Jess Yeah, it's hopped up to over 160...

Re: Weight difference between aluminum and cast iron intake [Re: jt4406] #1363753 01/08/13 02:59 AM 01/08/13 02:59 AM
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ProStock1320 super stock P Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 776 Eastern WA	Quote: 70 model carbs and iron intake, fuel lines and linkage, no air cleaner...77 lbs 69 model carbs and aluminum intake, fuel lines and linkage, no air cleaner....39 lbs 38 lb difference Are we sure there isn't a significant weight difference between '70 model carbs and those from '69? Did the carbs have equal amounts of gas in them??? Seriously, nice work Jess!

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