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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Keith Black®] #1363576
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Thanks DarrenB, it looks like there is a lot of room. I will go ahead and order the pan. I see you used studs for the oil pan hardware. Is it easier to install the windage tray, gaskets and pan compared to using bolts? Is external oil system better than using the factory pick up system?

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Keith Black®] #1363577
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We also modified the pickup ...





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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Beep Beep] #1363578
01/06/13 03:19 AM
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Thanks DarrenB, it looks like there is a lot of room. I will go ahead and order the pan. I see you used studs for the oil pan hardware. Is it easier to install the windage tray, gaskets and pan compared to using bolts? Is external oil system better than using the factory pick up system?




I'm not too sure if you will get away with a factory pickup (other's may chime in about that), it was never really an option with the longer stroke (I have not quite enough clearance for for an internal pickup), and the oil pump option I have.
the Studs are merely a preference, I am using them from valve cover to pan, they do make keeping the gasket in place easier when you put things together.



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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Beep Beep] #1363579
01/06/13 06:59 AM
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Thanks DarrenB, it looks like there is a lot of room. I will go ahead and order the pan. I see you used studs for the oil pan hardware. Is it easier to install the windage tray, gaskets and pan compared to using bolts? Is external oil system better than using the factory pick up system?




I would recomend you to use the std bolts for the pan becas of the tight fit of the pick up !

Realy great work you did on the pan Darren !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Mopar Guy] #1363580
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Thanks DarrenB, it looks like there is a lot of room. I will go ahead and order the pan. I see you used studs for the oil pan hardware. Is it easier to install the windage tray, gaskets and pan compared to using bolts? Is external oil system better than using the factory pick up system?




I would recomend you to use the std bolts for the pan becas of the tight fit of the pick up !

Realy great work you did on the pan Darren !!!!!!!!!!!!!




Thanks Patrick we have o-ringed the pickup screen too so we can take it out and clean it if we ever have the pan off


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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Keith Black®] #1363581
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I hope the Milodon pickup for that pan will work on my 4.15 crank in my B block. I am currently using the factory pickup with the 6 quart hemi pan and it works great. DarrenB that setup on your pan looks amazing.

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Beep Beep] #1363582
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I hope the Milodon pickup for that pan will work on my 4.15 crank in my B block. I am currently using the factory pickup with the 6 quart hemi pan and it works great. DarrenB that setup on your pan looks amazing.




The Milodon pickup for that pan should clear fine thoe it is a strait tube but be shore to order the corekt one becas they also have the Hemi pickup for that pan ! If the std windage tray (none stroker) works in your engine right now the pickup will defenetly clear !!!!!!

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Mopar Guy] #1363583
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I am going to order the milodon 18328 which is a 3/8 pickup. I may have to trim the windage tray because I am currently using the stroker tray.

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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Beep Beep] #1363584
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why not use the 31581 pan that has the external pickup already? I am clearing a set of Headman Supercomps on a 4.5" stroke Hemi with an external line to the front of the block. I had Al Debevec modify a V8 Kmember to Hemi and everything clears ok with a stock pitman and idler. Tim

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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: astjp2] #1363585
01/06/13 04:28 PM
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why not use the 31581 pan that has the external pickup already? I am clearing a set of Headman Supercomps on a 4.5" stroke Hemi with an external line to the front of the block. I had Al Debevec modify a V8 Kmember to Hemi and everything clears ok with a stock pitman and idler. Tim



Very cool! They didn't have those pans yet when I did mine!


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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Keith Black®] #1363586
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Just to wander off topic a little, does anyone know if this pan will fit a 64 Plymouth with a stock cross member and a 426? I'm curious to know if it will hit the cross member on the passengers side. Thanks in advance.

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: 64MAX] #1363587
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To the top again. Thanks

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: 64MAX] #1363588
12/27/14 01:49 AM
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Hello All!

I'm with 64max and his question. I wanted to just throw this out there again to see if anybody has had success with the 31580 miloden on a 62-65 b body without trimming/notching the K frame.

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: kz5rt2] #1363589
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I am about to put one on a 64 Dodge 330 with a Hemi on Schumacher mounts. I concluded it would hit the K-Member at the right front kick out. I elected to modify the pan rather than the K-Member. No big deal. The 62 to 65 website has a spot that says the pan will work, maybe it is the Schumacher mounts that change the fit.
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/oilpans.html

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Beep Beep] #1363590
12/27/14 04:44 PM
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I have this pan in 70 Challenger 512 in with 2 inch TTI's, not even close to any clearance issues. I recommend studs at rear main retainer. Everything else I use bolts,,,do not use ARP bolts,,,they are shorter than stock bolts(also their washers are almost like ball bearings) and are stainless(locktite does not work well) and will continually loosen. I use no sealer except very small amount at rear of pan around the retainer.

Proper torque is very important at 15 pounds. Unfortunately flimsy construction of RR pan, tightening to that torque will dimple the pan, leading to leaks. I suspect a primary reason that so many pans are slathered with silicone so as not to leak.

Makes for misery to use this stuff when you are next looking at removing pan.

This little fix that I threw together using 1/8th by 1 inch steel stock has worked very well to allow proper torquing. Perhaps a kit opportunity for some enterprising machinist.

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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Sxrxrnr] #1363591
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i jumped thru a bunch of hoops to make this one,.... and then i found out i could've bought one.

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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: lewtot184] #1363592
12/29/14 02:44 AM
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Consider a front end alignment issue if the pan hits the c link. My car had the steering wheel off center a bit when i got it. Stock pan cleared fine at full lock. The 31580 hit on the right side like in the one set of pics here. Centered the wheel and all was good.


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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: SomeCarGuy] #1363593
12/29/14 04:59 AM
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I would be checking for the internal steering box stops and where the pitman is indexed. I have 2 1/4" primaries on my headmans and it clears but I had to get everything right and I still may put fast ratio in and have to fight that problem at a later date. Tim


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Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: astjp2] #1363594
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Sorry to dig this up, but can anyone point me in the right direction for something to block off the oil temp sender bung? I'm not certain what the threads are, nor where to look for such a thing?

Thanks!

Re: Milodon 31580 Road Race Pan Help [Re: Wildjones] #1363595
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Sorry to dig this up, but can anyone point me in the right direction for something to block off the oil temp sender bung? I'm not certain what the threads are, nor where to look for such a thing?

Thanks!


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