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hemi crate balancer problem #134680
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hi when i went to bolt up the repo hemi pulley on the new crate motor the pattern would not line up i grabed a 440 one same thing does anyone know if the bolt pattern on the new crates balancers are different or is this one messed
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Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: westfort] #134681
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The original balancer and pulley had one offset hole, most of the new balancers have equally spaced holes.

Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: westfort] #134682
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I bought a new set of pulleys that were suppose to be for the new crate motor but wouldn't line up. They were used, someone had started elongating new holes.

Anyhow we were able to end up using the 440 one. I know the Hemi pulleys weren't cheap.


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Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: westfort] #134683
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If the rest line up just elongate the one hole.

Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: NITROUSN] #134684
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well i bought another one from mopar performance an the holes arent drilled the same as the one i got 2 years ago but there definately made by the same company bad news it doesent line up either i wish mopar would pull up there socks this crate is the 2008 version and im not sure if the old damper was drilled different my 440 pulley would not bolt up what a mess thanks for your input
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Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: westfort] #134685
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Is the new Hemi balancer on the crate motors set up for the old (68-71) thick balancer pulleys or it it set up for the BB pulleys?

Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: westfort] #134686
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Did you rotate the pulley untill the holes line up??


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oh about 100 times, the closest is one hole out buy apoxx 1/2 a diameter of the hole I just hate to bubble gum a new part theres definatly some problems with the damper I will get a new one and see, at least the dealer here cares
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The reason I asked about the pulleys was because of the alternator pulley alignment. If you use the original style crank and water pump pulleys, you will also need to use the correct original Hemi alternator pulley, assuming the the new pulley is the same as the original, with the exception of the mounting holes. If the new balancer is made for the BB crank pulley depth, you will be able to use the standard alternator pulley and the BB water pump pulley.

Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: Snoopy] #134689
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Is the new Hemi balancer on the crate motors set up for the old (68-71) thick balancer pulleys or it it set up for the BB pulleys?




No , its setup to use B/RB pulleys and altenator placement, whats odd is they sell a spacer and a repop of a 69 up hemi lower pulley to fit the asymetric bolt pattern and not the symetric bolt pattern of the balancer they install on the engines ...

To the OP , you either have to buy a $400 plus used original or repop thick balancer , modify that one hole or only use 3 bolts.

An alternative is to go to a 66-68 pulley arangement by using std B/RB pulleys , but again if you have an early crank pulley the bolt pattern is going to be off on that one hole .

Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: JohnRR] #134690
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My crate motor has the thin balancer. I order alum pulleys from mancini. The crank pulley needed a .37" spacer to achieve alignment. I painted the pulleys black, and I think I had to elongate one hole. I think the pulleys were around $150.

THis was about 4 years ago, but everything is still fine.
hope this helps.

Re: hemi crate balancer problem [Re: westfort] #134691
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It's simple. The crate motor uses a balancer with the depth dimension like a 440. As for the bolt pattern, older balancers had one bolt hole positioned different than the newer balancers. Some of the stock pulleys had one hole elongated from the factory so they would fit on either balancer. Other pulleys didn't have the elongation, and only fit one balancer. So as has been done for years, rotate the pulley till it lines up with all the holes, and if it doesn't line up with one, elongate it a little, and it will be just like the factory pulleys that came that way.


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