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Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: scarface06] #1342387
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I'm almost to the point that I have checked everything. Getting close to having to pull the front off to check the chain.

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: scarface06] #1342388
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at idle you should not see fuel


1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI
512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: CSK] #1342389
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swap to a known good carb and see if it makes a difference.IF you can't see fuel pressure under load you don't know what it is doing.

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: gch] #1342390
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swap to a known good carb and see if it makes a difference.IF you can't see fuel pressure under load you don't know what it is doing.




note i said at idle


1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI
512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: CSK] #1342391
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No fuel showing at idle. Taking it out for a spin now.

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: scarface06] #1342392
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when you had the carb apart did you look at the bottoms of the idle feed tubes in the primary clusters? those little holes will get a piece of dirt in them and make things run crappy. a bent valve or slightly leaking one will create roughness, especially at low rpm.

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: lewtot184] #1342393
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when you had the carb apart did you look at the bottoms of the idle feed tubes in the primary clusters? those little holes will get a piece of dirt in them and make things run crappy. a bent valve or slightly leaking one will create roughness, especially at low rpm.



I did check it all out. Cleaned all with carb cleaner then compressed air.

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: RapidRobert] #1342394
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Took it out and ran it good for the first time sense problems. Feels like it may have a little bit of a hick up when at about 45 MPH, but nothing I'm unhappy about. Will pretty much spin tires through all 3 gears. So very happy with that. As of right now only issue I'm left with is the rough idle. Timing still bounces a little and engine still shakes at idle. Have to have idle set at 1000 rpm so that when I put it in gear the RPM won't drop to far and die at stop signs.

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: scarface06] #1342395
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I would say you are on the transfer slots and not the idle circut pulling advanc in on the dist at 1000 rpm along with that big drop in rpms when going into gear.

it should only drop 100 rpm or so when going into gear.

have you put a vac gauge on the carb?

is it steady vac or jumping around like the damper/timing mark?

I would get a lite on it along side a vac gauge and adjust timeing with the gauge then adjust carb idle air screws.

I use the lite to make notes on the timeing setings,I set the dist by vac gauge and highest steady vac reading,then adjust air screws.

make a few runs at different settings to see what works best.

last one i could not tune the miss out of was a cracked head leaking water into a cyl.

I would still pull the plugs again and recheck for a fouled plug. i would replace them just to make sure.

look it over at night to see if it is jumping fire on plug wires and run you hand down each wire while it idles.

Re: 440 running rough.....need some help [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1342396
11/28/12 10:15 PM
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I went back to the Mallory distributor so vacuum advance isn't an issue. I'll need to work on the idle issues

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