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Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: StandOnIt] #133538
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One thing to think about. If you put the battery in the trunk without the master cutoff and take it to the track at all, it will not pass tech inspection. Not even for street test and tune.




Wanna bet ?? Ron

Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: 383man] #133539
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It does depend on the track.

At our local track there is absolutely no way they would let you run with a batt in the trunk, and no master shutoff.

Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: dave571] #133540
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Lots of new cars from the factory have the battery buried deep in the trunk. Do they pass tech?

Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: earlybee] #133541
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Lots of new cars from the factory have the battery buried deep in the trunk. Do they pass tech?




If the car is stock with no mods yes. My old mercedes did 11.90-12.20 stock without a problem with tech. I did have to have a helmet though.


but yes it does depend on the track.

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Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: tpabayflyer] #133542
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Thanks for the info guys... I looked around for one of those borg warner #S605's and can't find a listing for it???





common part.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=BOR&MfrPartNumber=S605


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: HealthServices] #133543
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I have my battery in the trunk as I wanted it to look like the Max Wedge's did with the trunk mounted battery and I did not mount a cut out switch at first. I went to the track and forgot I had not put one in yet and they did not even check for it. And that was at 2 different tracks. Ron


Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: 383man] #133544
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The track safety guys are funny. Sometimes they can be a hardazz and other times they are ok. The ones I've seen never had a check off list so it is easy to forget to look for something. Rules state if you have a gas tank in the trunk you have to have a metal firewall between the trunk and the passenger compartment. They never asked me about it but gave me a hard time about the centercaps being on the wheels.


If they see a familar car at the track they tend to just wave you on esp if they think someone checked you once before.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: HealthServices] #133545
10/10/08 06:46 AM
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Geezzz, our guy will kick it out in a heartbeat. One the other hand, there was a track here that would let you run with brake cables draging the ground..lol You right, may just be my track...One more question. Is there a special need for you to put it in the trunk or you just want it there? (eg, battery tray rotten. etc.)


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Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: dave571] #133546
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It does depend on the track.

At our local track there is absolutely no way they would let you run with a batt in the trunk, and no master shutoff.




Ditto, Ron where do you race? Capitol, 75/80 and M/D all check for an on-off switch if the battery is in the trunk

Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: HealthServices] #133547
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Thanks... I will order up a solenoid... As far as my situation goes, I don't think I need to have the trunk cutoff yet as my car is pretty mild and runs low 13's... I have only been teched once in about 10 years and thats because the track's insurance company was roaming around...
TBF

Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: Mr.Yuck] #133548
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It does depend on the track.

At our local track there is absolutely no way they would let you run with a batt in the trunk, and no master shutoff.




Ditto, Ron where do you race? Capitol, 75/80 and M/D all check for an on-off switch if the battery is in the trunk




I have run at Cecil and Mason Dixon. In fact this pic is from Mason Dixon and the tech guy never checked much of anything on my 63. I had the hood up and he came over and said...........is that a 426 ??? I said why yes it is and he said well then 426 is your car # today and thats about it. Ron


Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: 383man] #133549
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Mark at MAD Electrical http://www.madelectrical.com/ has a kit that will help you with all the cables and pieces you need to hook it up right.


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Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: tpabayflyer] #133550
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Instead of using a Ford starter relay , which has no neutral safety terminal, use a Jeep relay . It looks like a Ford relay but it has an extra terminal for the neutral switch . You can get it at NAPA , Echlin # ST-83 .

As far as the starter shorting out, run a strap across the terminals on the starter , then run a cable to the ST-83 . This way the starter cable is only "hot" when the starter is engaged .

I run this setup on my '65 Belvedere .


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Re: Moving battery to trunk.. how to connect the cables [Re: Pentastar440] #133551
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As far as the starter shorting out, run a strap across the terminals on the starter , then run a cable to the ST-83 . This way the starter cable is only "hot" when the starter is engaged.

I run this setup on my '65 Belvedere .




I read somewhere that it wasn't a good idea to "run a strap across the terminals on the starter" I can't remember why they said not to though.

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