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Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: StewartP] #132132
10/07/08 03:35 PM
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Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! #132133
10/07/08 05:04 PM
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I for one appreciate and respect the KB family so much so I bought my block from them earlier this year. I hope that things will turn around for them so they can continue the fine service and tradition that we have grown accustomed to.

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: StewartP] #132134
10/10/08 03:49 PM
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Early KB pictures




Oh boy does that first one look old. I seriously need to take a picture of the front of the place, it was recently re-painted and looks MUCH better.

I'll do my best to hand you guys the smaller details when we get them (I can't get too personal) But keeping you informed is important, I tried updating our website this summer, but we didn't get around to it. I'll see if I can push my dad to have me upload some sort of statement on the news section of our website.

Thanks everyone for your all your support thus far, it's been helpful.

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! #132135
10/10/08 05:35 PM
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Is the story about the book in Keith Black's Office True? The one titled "Everything I know about racing engines" that is totally empty! That is pretty good stuff there.....Or is that an ole wives tale?
Todd

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! #132136
10/10/08 06:51 PM
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Hello,

I hope a solution presents itself soon. I would absolutely hate to be telling my children that I remembered the days of the KB engines.

Damon

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: mopardamo] #132137
10/10/08 07:18 PM
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Tried to order a block today, and they said they were closed.

I hope they can work it out and get back in the game. We can bail out fools with bad credit and 125 percent home loans, but God forbid we help legit companies.

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: dthemi] #132138
10/10/08 08:51 PM
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Maybe we can do a MOPARTS-KEITH BLACK bailout......
Everyone kick in c-note for the cause. Or buy a block. If someone wants to take care of the money end of it, I'd be in a couple of those c-notes.


Karma has no menu. You get served what you deserve.
Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: SKR8PN] #132139
10/11/08 12:49 AM
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Man, this stinks(no disrespect to the family, I feel bad for them)! I was planning on one for next year...

~S~


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Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: SKR8PN] #132140
10/11/08 06:07 AM
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Maybe we can do a MOPARTS-KEITH BLACK bailout......
Everyone kick in c-note for the cause. Or buy a block. If someone wants to take care of the money end of it, I'd be in a couple of those c-notes.




just curious, and feel free to tell me to shut the _____ up because it's none of my business, but, what's a company like KB cost to buy?

1 million?
10 million?
1/2 million?

I have no idea what kind of volume you guys do, what your profit margins are or are capable of, or what kind of value you have placed on any patents that you might have


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Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: 70Cuda383] #132141
10/11/08 08:50 AM
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I wish I could afford the forging dies for his blocks that I see at work.
Let alone have the capital it takes to make the smallest run of them.
No small potatoes by any means.

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: 70Cuda383] #132142
10/11/08 09:04 AM
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Quote:

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Maybe we can do a MOPARTS-KEITH BLACK bailout......
Everyone kick in c-note for the cause. Or buy a block. If someone wants to take care of the money end of it, I'd be in a couple of those c-notes.




just curious, and feel free to tell me to shut the _____ up because it's none of my business, but, what's a company like KB cost to buy?

1 million?
10 million?
1/2 million?

I have no idea what kind of volume you guys do, what your profit margins are or are capable of, or what kind of value you have placed on any patents that you might have






I have no idea what a company like that would be worth, but they already have the expensive stuff handled. The block design is very good, castings are excellent, CNC machine work is second to none and we already NOW how great their customer service is. Heck, all we need is a little cash flow to help get them over this little bump in the road.


Karma has no menu. You get served what you deserve.
Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: SKR8PN] #132143
10/11/08 09:14 AM
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I'm sorry to hear about that mess. Have talked to Ken a few times over the last few years and he's always gone out of his way to help out Mopar's customers when an issue pops up. Best wishes and I hope someone helps the business make a comeback. Things are tough all over these days

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: SKR8PN] #132144
10/11/08 09:20 AM
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Maybe we can do a MOPARTS-KEITH BLACK bailout......
Everyone kick in c-note for the cause. Or buy a block. If someone wants to take care of the money end of it, I'd be in a couple of those c-notes.




Even though I have never used there stuff or foresee a need to, it kills me to see a good company fall by the wayside. I'll dontate my $100....


Mike Gray


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Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: theclutcher] #132145
10/11/08 09:34 AM
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I'm saddened to see this happen but us american
people are the cause of this, buying off shore
products all the time, sending our money AND jobs
overseas and in doing so decrease our dollar value

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #132146
10/11/08 10:50 AM
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to bad ..looking for a new block for a new projekt ...was in the process going away from the heavy iron ..when i heard all the good about KB hereon this forum ...and now this happend

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: Tobbe] #132147
10/11/08 11:07 AM
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Just a question...I wonder if anyone at the company has considered going public? Issuing stock and having share holders might be a way to keep them going. Just a thought.


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Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: Al_Alguire] #132148
10/11/08 01:30 PM
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I know it might be bad luck for saying this, but I hope Indy doesn't try to buy them. That would suck.

Hopefully some big time racing team that uses KB Hemi blocks will buy them. It blows that Ken can't find an alternative

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: Al_Alguire] #132149
10/11/08 04:54 PM
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Quote:

Just a question...I wonder if anyone at the company has considered going public? Issuing stock and having share holders might be a way to keep them going. Just a thought.






I'm in..



Chris..

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #132150
10/11/08 08:55 PM
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I'd buy some KB stock in a heartbeat!

Re: Keith Black Engines possibly closing the doors!!!! [Re: Jeremiah] #132151
10/28/08 03:45 AM
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Well, still holding out a bit, we have several people interested so we will see what happens, keep your fingers crossed and hope for a happy outcome so we can still get you new KB parts.

With the economy I don't think going public in the stock market would really solve anything.

If you are interested in buying a block still, I think my dad is taking down names and numbers should things go through alright, so give him a call. I think he is still shipping out the little things like head studs etc, so if you need some quality parts give him a call to see what you can still get. www.keithblack.com (562) 869-1518 If you are seriously interested in the price he is trying to sell the company for call and ask, if you are serious about it.

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