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Charcoal canister restoration / repair #1320020
10/14/12 09:59 AM
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Are the Charcoal canisters used on mopars serviceable or were they replaced as a unit?

Specifically looking for information on how to disassemble the canister to replace the foam element on the bottom.

This unit is from a 72 Dodge Challenger

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Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: C_B5] #1320021
10/14/12 12:12 PM
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There is a fiberglass filter that fits on the bottom. It's still available new.

I think the factory used some type of glue on the bottom cover. I was afraid of breaking the plastic on mine. I've heard of people breaking out the bottom and refilling them with charcole. Then you have to figure out a way to hold it in there without being visable from the outside. I just put a new fiberglass filter on mine and called it good. If I start smelling any fuel, I might look into replacing the charcole.

As far as refinishing them... The top of mine still had the original date code on it. I sanded on the sides with wet/dry paper to get rid of the scratches and rust stains. I masked off the top(to retain the date code) and sprayed the sides with SEM Trim Black. If I had to do it over again, I'd spray it with something that has slightly more gloss to it.




Do you still have your original hoses that go to the carb? One of the hoses should have either a red or yellow stripe on it. I reproduced the stripe with a paint pen.



Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: burdar] #1320022
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That is exactly what I'm trying to find out - How to take it apart to replace the charcoal, because the original filter deteriorated and lost some of the charcoal.
I'm not certain that the bottom is sealed together or maybe the 2 holes are used to unscrew the base from the cansister. On the GM versions it was a simple r&r for the filters.

Does anyone have any experience breaking the bottom apart as Darren mentions?

The canister itself is in excellent condition so would like to repair and use the original if possible

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Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: C_B5] #1320023
10/15/12 06:59 PM
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I hope the OP doesn't mind me jumping in. I also suffer from the fume smells, what is the correct way/locations to hook up the connections to the canister? Where do both ends of each hose connect to?



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Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: roe] #1320024
10/15/12 10:53 PM
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It depends on the year.

My 73 has three nipples. One goes to the tank vent. One goes to the carb bowl vent. The last one goes a large fitting on the side of the carb.

A FSM for your year should show where to hook them up.

Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: burdar] #1320025
10/26/12 04:09 PM
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Quote:

There is a fiberglass filter that fits on the bottom. It's still available new.

I think the factory used some type of glue on the bottom cover. I was afraid of breaking the plastic on mine. I've heard of people breaking out the bottom and refilling them with charcole. Then you have to figure out a way to hold it in there without being visable from the outside. I just put a new fiberglass filter on mine and called it good. If I start smelling any fuel, I might look into replacing the charcole.

As far as refinishing them... The top of mine still had the original date code on it. I sanded on the sides with wet/dry paper to get rid of the scratches and rust stains. I masked off the top(to retain the date code) and sprayed the sides with SEM Trim Black. If I had to do it over again, I'd spray it with something that has slightly more gloss to it.



Do you still have your original hoses that go to the carb? One of the hoses should have either a red or yellow stripe on it. I reproduced the stripe with a paint pen.






Sorry i did not post when it was first asked but i looked and looked for the pictures i took of doing them in steps
I did quite a few. I cut the bottom open, changed out the charcoal with the right size {aquarium store a neighbor works at had some}
Inside there is a metal plate I also added some screen and reglued the bottom back on.
On some I just cut the slots open to sneak the old stuff out and back in. Then just started cutting the whole thing open and glueing.
New pads are sold in 5 packs or singles.
I did clean the plastic with Westley's Bleach White and hand rubbed them to a semi gloss with Wenol RED


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Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: C_B5] #1320026
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I Finally ended up just cutting a FEW WEBS so i could pass everything in and out the small hole it made. And did as above hot glued some metal screen over the whole bottom and it was hidden by the pad.
All 3 ways worked but this was easiest


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Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: 340SIX] #1320027
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if you only removed a few of the plastic webs how was the new foam filter installed as it sits on the opposite side of the web or screen?

also when you removed the whole bottom did you use the groove between the outer case to cut around in a complete circle?

thanks

Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: C_B5] #2275551
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Resurrecting this thread, is there something missing from the bottom of this can?
Chamber is completely empty and there are 2 metal discs rattling around inside.


Re: Charcoal canister restoration / repair [Re: C_B5] #2275580
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Looks like all the charcoal is gone along with the bottom filter element.I bought one out of a 72 Sat.& forgot it @ the front desk of the junkyard about 1 1/2 years ago,recently returned to the JY & it was gone.







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