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Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: sixpackjeff] #1315825
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Well, I am bringing back a past here on what we were all hoping would be a year full of Mopar events around the Ohio, Indy, Penn. & W.Virg. areas. I typed in the words "Mopower Events" and it took me to all this. The year has past and we had 2 less Mopower Events ,( no West Virginia and no KilKare), 1 less Monster Mopar,(no St Louis), Curt George Memorial was moved from Pittsburg to Quaker City, Chrysler Power Classic in Cinci. I would also like to thank the people that showed up at "The Spring Nostalgia Nationals" at National Trail Raceway for the 3 years that I put it on. I will not be doing it again but you will be seeing my Sled City racers out in full force at other events next year. Of course we are all wondering how to plan our vacations for next years racing and I think it would be nice for Jeff Johnson, Josh King, Charles E. Blankenship, and of course "Big Bob George" , to say what they have in store for us next year. One last thing, are there any "NEW" promoters out there throwing their hat in the ring?




I'm working on a series for next year and I think we have a new sponsor; the Mexican Cantina and Grille. They have locations in Ohio, Michigan and Indiana and are interested in providing free food and beverage for all our events, as well as year end cash. I'm looking forward to "MCG's Race for the Can."



Well, at least we have one promoter out there getting ready for some good racing.

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: AAR-B4] #1315826
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"MCG's Race for the Can."

That's funny right there.


exlax?

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: ro23car] #1315827
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"MCG's Race for the Can."

That's funny right there.


exlax?




Come on! It's good mexican food!

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: moparguy7074] #1315828
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"MCG's Race for the Can."

That's funny right there.


exlax?




Come on! It's good mexican food!


Good mexican food is as good as Exlax, and tastes better too.


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Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: dartman366] #1315829
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To have a clear understanding of my position,I'am not a promoter.I and my associates help sponser the Curt Memorial race to honor Curt,his memory and his legesy.I leave the promoting to the track owners and or the event owners if one is involved.
We have been recently approached from a potential promoter who wants to create a new 3 race series for Mopar racers.This would be a race oriented event,with guarrenteed payouts and affordable entry fees.The payouts will come from sponsership money and not be prorated on the number of cars entered.It is unfair for racers to travel at great cost to find that the purse is diminished because of low car count.It is the responsibility of the track owner or event promoter to bring the racers to the event.The big mistake they make is not securing the sponser funds to cover the payouts and realy on the gate and entry to cover that cost as well as put money in their pockets.Relying on only the gate and entry is a sure way to lose money unless you cut the payout and that certainly pisses of the racers.
We are in an early stage negotiations with this promoter and if anything developes we will inform everyone.
Respectfully,
Bob

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: B G Racing] #1315830
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To have a clear understanding of my position,I'am not a promoter.I and my associates help sponser the Curt Memorial race to honor Curt,his memory and his legesy.I leave the promoting to the track owners and or the event owners if one is involved.
We have been recently approached from a potential promoter who wants to create a new 3 race series for Mopar racers.This would be a race oriented event,with guarrenteed payouts and affordable entry fees.The payouts will come from sponsership money and not be prorated on the number of cars entered.It is unfair for racers to travel at great cost to find that the purse is diminished because of low car count.It is the responsibility of the track owner or event promoter to bring the racers to the event.The big mistake they make is not securing the sponser funds to cover the payouts and realy on the gate and entry to cover that cost as well as put money in their pockets.Relying on only the gate and entry is a sure way to lose money unless you cut the payout and that certainly pisses of the racers.
We are in an early stage negotiations with this promoter and if anything developes we will inform everyone.
Respectfully,
Bob






So in other words don't put up more money than you can afford to lose...
Bob I will make the Curt Memorial race one day...


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Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: kissmyaspen] #1315831
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I can say with most certainty, that another group of people trying to put on races will be a great reason for me not to do it.

Why is it the Mopar mentality to saturate an already whored-up market as a solution....

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: joshking440] #1315832
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I can say with most certainty, that another group of people trying to put on races will be a great reason for me not to do it.




As a business owner myself, I endeavor to provide a better product at a better price than my competition. If I didn't, wouldnt be much point in staying open, or for that matter likely wouldn't be viable to do so.
Welcome to being a business owner in our great country, where your own efforts and savvy can dictate how successful you are.
Start with a good product, and taking excellent care of the customer, and one is a good ways toward success.


not trying to sound snarky, just trying to say that few endeavors are free of competition.

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Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: joshking440] #1315833
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I can say with most certainty, that another group of people trying to put on races will be a great reason for me not to do it.

Why is it the Mopar mentality to saturate an already whored-up market as a solution....




Josh,with the loss of some series and the lack of attendence at others for whatever reasons why wouldn't a new series benifit racers?As long as dates arn't conflicting and venues saturated as well as programs not typically similar,a variety of events in different locations would give racers and enthusiast more oppertunity and choises as to dates available and distances to travel and type of competition to compete in.Your events are a great venue for multiple classes like 10.5,quick and others as well as a varity of special classes.Your events are usually held at the larger tracks in populated areas with many sizable side events as mfg,venders,swap and shows that attract a lot of people traffic.
A series with limited classes that cater to smaller market areas that normally wouldn't have these type of events :ie Beaver Springs would not hurt your series and provide more oppertunity for our sport to grow and even enhance your events if more people become interested.
We hope that if a new grassroots series does materialize you would view it as heathy competition and a restart of interest that may benifit everyone.Then maybe we wouldn't be viewed as a whored- up market, we would be viewed as a high-class specialized escort service.
Respectfully,
Bob

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: joshking440] #1315834
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I can say with most certainty, that another group of people trying to put on races will be a great reason for me not to do it.

Why is it the Mopar mentality to saturate an already whored-up market as a solution....




So what are you saying Josh, no MMW for 2014?

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: moparguy7074] #1315835
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With out healthy competition in any market will enable one to monopolize that market and dictate the rules and hold the public hostage with a take it or leave it attitude.Eventually the end users will find away to bring down such an monopoly.
I would hope Josh wouldn't quit because of a little competition.I see no threat to his events.In the past we have always schudled our event and our entire race schudle so that we could attend Josh's event at Indy and Norwalk.After 8 years of having the Curt race in June,we graciously moved it to August as not to conflict with Josh's and anyone elses events.
We still feel that these events can enhance each other if promoted and schudled correctly and it can be a win win for both the events and those who attend.If your passionate about what your doing you can succeed even if you have to compete.

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Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: B G Racing] #1315836
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Well said Bob. Maybe all the promoters could all get together at a meeting and devise a point system that all the events could run by and have a giant world finals at Norwalk or at another venue. I know that is asking alot of some promoters, but I feel that car count would be up at all the races and the advertising would be way cheaper if all the promoters would join forces.

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: THE GLASS MAN] #1315837
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I think they should at least co-ordinate together on dates and venues,but it's highly unlikely for them to work together.There is too much lack of respect between some of the current promoters.Like in any competitive business someone will always want to be number 1.
The idea is good just like the NASCAR championships.

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: B G Racing] #1315838
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Well put Bob. The promotors should sit down and get everything hashed out on dates etc. I think I can say that Moparmax races at Cedar Falls,Iowa will probably be held again after the Div.5 ET finals in sept.2014. I don't see this date hurting other events that happen in Ohio,Indy,or St.Louis. A lot of it will depend on the economy next year. I do know some of our locals that have gone to Indy or St.Louis. Good luck to everyone. I sure hope things work out! Ted


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Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: tboomer] #1315839
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Well put Bob. The promotors should sit down and get everything hashed out on dates etc. I think I can say that Moparmax races at Cedar Falls,Iowa will probably be held again after the Div.5 ET finals in sept.2014. I don't see this date hurting other events that happen in Ohio,Indy,or St.Louis. A lot of it will depend on the economy next year. I do know some of our locals that have gone to Indy or St.Louis. Good luck to everyone. I sure hope things work out! Ted





Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: moparguy7074] #1315840
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I can say with most certainty, that another group of people trying to put on races will be a great reason for me not to do it.

Why is it the Mopar mentality to saturate an already whored-up market as a solution....




So what are you saying Josh, no MMW for 2014?



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Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: 340RICK] #1315841
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Ok everyone.. Mark your calendars for 2014..

The dates have been set.. Monster Mopar Weekend "Mopars Invade Indy" at Lucas Oil Raceway.. June 27-29, 2014.

Monster Mopar Weekend "World Finals" Norwalk, OH, Summit Motorsports Park will be Sept. 12-14, 2014.

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: VernMotor] #1315842
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Ok everyone.. Mark your calendars for 2014..

The dates have been set.. Monster Mopar Weekend "Mopars Invade Indy" at Lucas Oil Raceway.. June 27-29, 2014.

Monster Mopar Weekend "World Finals" Norwalk, OH, Summit Motorsports Park will be Sept. 12-14, 2014.


guess I need to get a 2014 calendar so I can mark it up.


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Ok everyone.. Mark your calendars for 2014..

The dates have been set.. Monster Mopar Weekend "Mopars Invade Indy" at Lucas Oil Raceway.. June 27-29, 2014.

Monster Mopar Weekend "World Finals" Norwalk, OH, Summit Motorsports Park will be Sept. 12-14, 2014.





The dates have been set by who?

Re: Mopower events May 17-19 2013, whats up with that?? [Re: sixpackjeff] #1315844
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That is from the MMW facebook page.

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