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Where do you find suspension grease boots? #1305245
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I'm helping my brother-in-law with his Duster. We have the engine out to paint the engine bay and the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed. Does anyone sell just the boots? We need them for both upper ball joints, both lowers and the tie rod/pitman/idler arm boots as well.
Any ideas? Thanks, Greg

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Kern Dog] #1305246
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I'm helping my brother-in-law with his Duster. We have the engine out to paint the engine bay and the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed. Does anyone sell just the boots? We need them for both upper ball joints, both lowers and the tie rod/pitman/idler arm boots as well.
Any ideas? Thanks, Greg




Energy suspension sells black poly boots for tie rods and pitman arm.

But I don't know of any place to get upper and lower boots. Chrysler I think sells lowers that might fit an aftermarket LBJ. But the Chrysler tie rod boots will only fit OE/NOS? tie rod end that have a metal snap ring molded into them.

There's a Mopar and/or Direct Connection boot kit. Its ridiculously expensive. You could about buy now UBJ and LBJ's for that money!

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: autoxcuda] #1305247
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See: http://www.jimsautoparts.com/suspension.htm

and scroll 1-2 pages down. I'm not saying to buy these, because they are way expensive. But if anybody knows where to find the same thing or something as good elsewhere for a decent price, please post.


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Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: autoxcuda] #1305248
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I'm helping my brother-in-law with his Duster. We have the engine out to paint the engine bay and the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed. Does anyone sell just the boots? We need them for both upper ball joints, both lowers and the tie rod/pitman/idler arm boots as well.
Any ideas? Thanks, Greg




Energy suspension sells black poly boots for tie rods and pitman arm.

But I don't know of any place to get upper and lower boots. Chrysler I think sells lowers that might fit an aftermarket LBJ. But the Chrysler tie rod boots will only fit OE/NOS? tie rod end that have a metal snap ring molded into them.

There's a Mopar and/or Direct Connection boot kit. Its ridiculously expensive. You could about buy now UBJ and LBJ's for that money!






http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-5-13102G/

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: kentj340] #1305249
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See: http://www.jimsautoparts.com/suspension.htm

and scroll 1-2 pages down. I'm not saying to buy these, because they are way expensive. But if anybody knows where to find the same thing or something as good elsewhere for a decent price, please post.




That's the Mopar/Direct Connection seal kit. Big $$. The tie rod seals have a metel reinforcemnt that only click into OE/NOS tie rods that car that have a machined lip/groove.

IMHO, you are paying $169 to use 4 seals: the upper ball joint and lower ball joint. I think you could buy new ball joints for almost that money.

I'd try to find those "inferior" UBJ and LBJ boots that Jim's shows a picture off. Probably "HELP" brand section at the parts store. Or ask to look at thier catalog to see if you can special order the seals.

Are Jim's Auto Parts the crooks to stay away from or is it Jack's??

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: OzHemi] #1305250
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I'm helping my brother-in-law with his Duster. We have the engine out to paint the engine bay and the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed. Does anyone sell just the boots? We need them for both upper ball joints, both lowers and the tie rod/pitman/idler arm boots as well.
Any ideas? Thanks, Greg




Energy suspension sells black poly boots for tie rods and pitman arm.

But I don't know of any place to get upper and lower boots. Chrysler I think sells lowers that might fit an aftermarket LBJ. But the Chrysler tie rod boots will only fit OE/NOS? tie rod end that have a metal snap ring molded into them.

There's a Mopar and/or Direct Connection boot kit. Its ridiculously expensive. You could about buy now UBJ and LBJ's for that money!






http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-5-13102G/




Are those UBJ and LBJ boots? Or tie rod boots?

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: autoxcuda] #1305251
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Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: autoxcuda] #1305252
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Are Jim's Auto Parts the crooks to stay away from or is it Jack's??




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Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: autoxcuda] #1305253
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I'm helping my brother-in-law with his Duster. We have the engine out to paint the engine bay and the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed. Does anyone sell just the boots? We need them for both upper ball joints, both lowers and the tie rod/pitman/idler arm boots as well.
Any ideas? Thanks, Greg




Energy suspension sells black poly boots for tie rods and pitman arm.

But I don't know of any place to get upper and lower boots. Chrysler I think sells lowers that might fit an aftermarket LBJ. But the Chrysler tie rod boots will only fit OE/NOS? tie rod end that have a metal snap ring molded into them.

There's a Mopar and/or Direct Connection boot kit. Its ridiculously expensive. You could about buy now UBJ and LBJ's for that money!






http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-5-13102G/




Are those UBJ and LBJ boots? Or tie rod boots?




Hmm...not sure if they are uppers or lowers, might check on Energy's site and see if they have a better description maybe.

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Kern Dog] #1305254
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The HELP section of most autoparts stores has them.

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Kern Dog] #1305255
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Mancini, $100 for the whole shooting match, two upper ball, two lower ball, all four tie rods, idler, and pitman.

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Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Kern Dog] #1305256
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the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed.




Because you used a pickle fork to separate them.

Just say NO to pickle forks.


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Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: 68HemiB] #1305257
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Would a pickle Spork have been more appropriate ?

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: OzHemi] #1305258
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Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: 68HemiB] #1305259
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the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed.




Because you used a pickle fork to separate them.

Just say NO to pickle forks.




Really? YOU were in MY garage to see how I pulled it all apart?
YOU think that in 40 years, I am the only one to have ever laid hands on this car?
The boots were damaged before disassembly.
Thanks for offering nothing positive here.

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: 68HemiB] #1305260
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the entire front suspension is disassembled. The ball joints and tie rod ends are in great shape, but the boots are trashed.




Because you used a pickle fork to separate them.

Just say NO to pickle forks.




What do you use instead of a pickle fork?

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Ramrod39] #1305261
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The factory service manual shows a tool that pushes the top ball joint stud against the bottom ball joint stud. It looks sort of like a turnbuckle or something. What happens after the first one pops loose? Now you have nothing to push against. Does anyone have a picture of a correct tool? I'd gladly try a different approach. Often when I want to save a nice grease boot, I'll use two hammers opposed and hit the knuckle/spindle from 2 sides. after a few raps, the ball joint usually squirts out!

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Kern Dog] #1305262
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The ones from the Help section at the local Auto store are NG. I used a couple when I did my suspesion rebuild in the spring...they never fit that well to begin with. Last week when I put on my new wheels, I noticed they are now gone.

Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Kern Dog] #1305263
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The factory service manual shows a tool that pushes the top ball joint stud against the bottom ball joint stud. It looks sort of like a turnbuckle or something. What happens after the first one pops loose? Now you have nothing to push against. Does anyone have a picture of a correct tool? I'd gladly try a different approach. Often when I want to save a nice grease boot, I'll use two hammers opposed and hit the knuckle/spindle from 2 sides. after a few raps, the ball joint usually squirts out!




Here ya go,Frankie. Note that the tool(I use a 1" coupling nut and machine screw) is only a helper."Tighten tool enough to place ball joint stud under pressure then strike steering knuckle arm with a ". When one is removed the tool goes against the knuckle. I much prefer this method to beating the crap out of the knuckle and it's a lot easier.

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Re: Where do you find suspension grease boots? [Re: Kern Dog] #1305264
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Just doing the same thing on my Dart. After searching I ordered a full set from Year One part number fdp963. Only 25.99. Sorry I dont know how to post a link. Wayne

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