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Reserection of my old W8 Bullet***UPDATE 5 RESULTS*** #1296635
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Been working on putting my old engine back together. I think the problems with the engine were well documented in previous posts, however I discovered more issues since then that I haven't shared. Anyway, I am am much further along than this post suggests and I will bring everyone up to speed pretty quickly. I haven't posted much for quite a while and it has been 100 degrees + for a long time here and that equals no progress in my shop.

I will start from the beginning. I had the block honed at a shop in the DFW area by a company called Farris Racing Engines. They took the bores .002 over to 4.187 and they seem to be straight and no taper. They were the only ones that had torque plates for an R3 anywhere here. The jury is still out on them as they lost 5 head studs and several nuts that belonged to the set. I called them about the missing pieces, but no return call.....go figure as that cost me another $40 to replace the missing pieces. I wanted to tighten up the main clearances to .0025 and went with coated Clevite main bearings this time. All of the bearing clearances came out very good between .0023 and .0026 on #2 thru #5. #1 was very tight with that bearing and was .0009 . So, I had another set of bearings on hand that were not coated and threw in one of those and bam...right at .0025 clearance. So, the #1 bearing is not coated to make the clearance correct. In this sequence, the cam is also slid in. I am eager to see what this "smaller" cam will do in this combination. I installed the Jesel belt drive cover using one of the Superperformance short deck timing cover gaskets. The two upper holes weren't big enough to get bolts thru, but I will get with Greg about that. Those gaskets appear to be high quality and I really like the gasket material. I had issues with the fittment of the belt drive. The lower pulley is not as thick in the hub area and the shoulder on the Callies crank interfeared with the end of the ATI damper. It wouldn't draw up all of the way....about .18" or so. Had to machine the end of the balancer hub .20" deep and about .025" larger diameter to fit over the step on the journal. This wasn't obvious, but glad I found the problem. I found it when I compared the old gear drive lower gear thickness with the lower pulley of the Jesel system. I will post updates of the rest of the short block assembly by the end of the week and long block assembly shortly there after. Here are a few teeser pictures.






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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296636
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Lookin good Good you caught the bearing deal. Whats the whole motor combo by chance.


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296637
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Brian were all anxiouse to see this bad boy,i hope the freakin heat gets out of here also cause theres no rush to get out in it.I appreciate the pics and the info and hope the best(really wanna see how the heads work) w the combo go get em.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: Thumperdart] #1296638
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Lookin good Good you caught the bearing deal. Whats the whole motor combo by chance.




R3 Short Deck (old pro stock truck block), 3.79 stroke Callies, GRP rod, CP piston (4.185"), Charlies custom pan with swinging pick up, old W8 roundy round heads updated by Brett Miller with his CNC port program (picked up some nice numbers with much better efficiency), Titanium valves, Jesel 1.7 rockers, New 50mm roller cam (reduced duration, increased lift from old cam), Jesel Belt Drive, Peterson External Oil Pump, Crane Ultra Pro lifters, Ported 598 Cast Intake opened up to Dominator flg, 1050 Quickfuel dominator, firecore 50 wires.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296639
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Looks nice.Im looking forward to seeing what kinda numbers you put down when its all done.Brett does some awsome work for sure.I will be keeping a eye on this post.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296640
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Brian, did you happen to mic the bearing shell to see if it was a fluke, maybe too much coating, it's been known to happen with a bearing being tight in a set,even un coated one's, thats why we check them, lookin' good so far.


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: Hitman340] #1296641
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Looks nice.Im looking forward to seeing what kinda numbers you put down when its all done.Brett does some awsome work for sure.I will be keeping a eye on this post.




Yes, Brett does very nice work! I will be keeping everyone in suspense on the results though. All in due time.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: dartman366] #1296642
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Brian, did you happen to mic the bearing shell to see if it was a fluke, maybe too much coating, it's been known to happen with a bearing being tight in a set,even un coated one's, thats why we check them, lookin' good so far.




I did not check that. You have me curious now though and I will take a second look. I just seen the relatively large difference in clearance and didn't think about it possibly being in the coating.

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296643
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Good deal Brian . I't great to see it going back together. Are you planning on running it this fall?

Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296644
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Brian, did you happen to mic the bearing shell to see if it was a fluke, maybe too much coating, it's been known to happen with a bearing being tight in a set,even un coated one's, thats why we check them, lookin' good so far.




I did not check that. You have me curious now though and I will take a second look. I just seen the relatively large difference in clearance and didn't think about it possibly being in the coating.


if it is an odd ball then clevite should replace it.


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Re: Reserection of my old W8 Bullet [Re: 408strokerdart] #1296645
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Cool

Cant wait to hear all the results

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Cant wait to hear all the results




HaHa....you know the results, but play along anyway. You are probably the only one here that knows.

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Good deal Brian . I't great to see it going back together. Are you planning on running it this fall?




It is back together.....and yes to your last Q.

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Man I hope I don't let you down...
Looks nice

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Man I hope I don't let you down...
Looks nice




You are one of the few that haven't let me down. Superior workmanship and attention to details. Can't say enough good things about your work or ports. It won't be much longer and you will have your answers as to how well this port works on my stuff.

I just hope that I did the heads justice by making everything else "right" under them.

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Glad to hear its coming back together, Brian!

Hope all is well!

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Its good to see it going back together. I hope we get hooked up this fall.Are you going to the dyno before running it? If so where?

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Glad to hear its coming back together, Brian!

Hope all is well!




Thanks Ben. I will still be calling you and be bugging you for Racepak help....don't you worry!

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Its good to see it going back together. I hope we get hooked up this fall.Are you going to the dyno before running it? If so where?




No dyno. It is in the "dyno" now.

Hope to get together at a race soon. Let me know when you are travelling this direction to run.

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