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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: RapidRobert] #1278972
10/15/12 06:32 PM
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Where are you located? I reread the entire thread and have a feeling that you're not in the USA, making parts a little harder to find.
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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: dogdays] #1278973
10/16/12 01:30 PM
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Where are you located? I reread the entire thread and have a feeling that you're not in the USA, making parts a little harder to find.
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I am located in Israel :-)

Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: RapidRobert] #1278974
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and a new mopar performance ignition kit


If it comes with an orange box I would suggest keeping a spare 4 pin ECU in the glove box. Your parts house has em for cheap. I'm assuming you already have electronic ign. I'd get a hotter coil/ballast. I use a FBO coil and MP 1/4 ohm ballast and OE ECU & it starts/runs awesome. the power is pretty much from the coil/ballast combo & not the coil primary switcher (ECU) but people are raving about FBO's new ECU. EDIT If needed there is a pentastar ECU harness/pigtail assy for $28 in the BB for sale section page 6 which may or may not come with the 2 terminal nominal 1.25 ohm ballast but was not shown in the pic




This is the set i bought. It comes with a new resistor.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-3690427

What is ECU?

Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: HemiFury1973] #1278975
10/16/12 07:51 PM
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What is ECU?


Electronic Control Unit, the orange box in the pic. EDIT you'll have the 1.25 ohm resistor in that kit. I'm assuming you have an OE 5 pin ECU and 4 terminal (dual) ballast. You can pull the dual OE ballast & plug in your new ballast to the 2 connectors that were on the lower ohm side of the "dual" ballast. This's let you use your wiring unaltered if desired & if the orange box fails you can easily plug the 5 pin ECU/4 terminal dual ballast back in.

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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: RapidRobert] #1278976
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What is ECU?


Electronic Control Unit, the orange box in the pic. EDIT you'll have the 1.25 ohm resistor in that kit. I'm assuming you have an OE 5 pin ECU and 4 terminal (dual) ballast. You can pull the dual OE ballast & plug in your new ballast to the 2 connectors that were on the lower ohm side of the "dual" ballast. This's let you use your wiring unaltered if desired & if the orange box fails you can easily plug the 5 pin ECU/4 terminal dual ballast back in.




Thank you so much.
Yesterday the new set was installed. The guy who did the work said there is no need to replace the resistor and the old one was not replaced. Is it true or should i replace the resistor as well? I feel a slight difference in the ignition and throttle response now.

Thanks,

Hemi

Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: HemiFury1973] #1278977
12/29/12 02:23 PM
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Yesterday the new set was installed. The guy who did the work said there is no need to replace the resistor and the old one was not replaced. Is it true or should i replace the resistor as well?


You have the orange box in & kept the original 4 terminal (dual) ballast? did you get the orange box by itself or the kit which would have included the 1.25 (nominal) ohm (single) 2 terminal ballast? The 4 terminal OE dual ballast has a nominal ohm rating of .5 ohm on the run side and 5 ohms on the start side and the last high miles one I checked had 1.6 ohms on the run side and 6 ohms on the start side (the start side is of no consequence with a 4 pin ECU as it ain't used on a 4 pin (orange) box but the 1.6 ohms on the run side is too much & costs performance. One end of the 4 terminal dual ballast harness has a blue loop and I put a loop on the other end to make a parallel circuit on the 4 terminal ballast in effect to make it a 2 terminal single ballast like what comes in the MP kit & the ohms dropped to 1.1 ohms which is acceptable. If you have the kit with the single ballast & an a VOM I'd ohm them all & holler with what you come up with & we'll go from there


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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: RapidRobert] #1278978
12/29/12 05:53 PM
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If it were mine; i think I would find a cheap used stock Mopar iron 4 barrel intake, or if not then a performer intake, and swap it along with a thermoquad carb, and dual exhausts. Relatively easy changes to make without trying to get too much out of a smog engine. Those should make a nice difference. Then maybe eventually 3.23 gears to liven it up even more

Btw, beautiful car!


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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: larrymopar360] #1278979
12/29/12 08:24 PM
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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: larrymopar360] #1278980
12/29/12 08:41 PM
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If it were mine; i think I would find a cheap used stock Mopar iron 4 barrel intake, or if not then a performer intake, and swap it along with a thermoquad carb, and dual exhausts. Relatively easy changes to make without trying to get too much out of a smog engine. Those should make a nice difference. Then maybe eventually 3.23 gears to liven it up even more

Btw, beautiful car!






I'm assuming the supply of used american car parts in Israel is sketchy at best but a stock iron intake with a Thermoquad and a set of 2.5" duals with an H-pipe and good mufflers will wake it right up.

Another cheap but somewhat time consuming mod would be to get a roller 9 way key timing chain set, a degree wheel kit and advance the cam that is in it 4 degrees. That will increase bottom end torque and with the actual compression ratio being in the 7's:1 range, (the manual lied lol) you can use all the help you can get.

Oh by the way, nice car.

Kevin

Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: HemiFury1973] #1278981
12/30/12 04:30 AM
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Wow that car is beautiful! My first car was a 73 Fury III two door 360 2bbl. Since you already have the carb & intake I suggest a true dual exhaust and rear end gears. Assuming it is an 8-3/4" then you could run 3.23, 3.55 or higher. It all depends on what you want to do with the car and how much money you have for expensive Israeli gasoline. 3.23's are probably a good choice and easier to find + don't forget to change your speedometer gear. You might also consider a K&N air filter in any cheap air cleaner you can find (open of course). You don't have to replace the ballast resistor, just keep an extra one in your car. If it won't start all of a sudden, that's most likely the problem (they burn out a lot)


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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1278982
12/30/12 11:50 AM
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Holley SD intake will take all the low end torque away, I tried it several different ways on my 383. In the great intake dyno test it was down something like 30ft lbs @3000rpm to a dp4b, imagine how bad it was way down low.

when it was still NA and carb'ed, my car had a lot more grunt from an idle with the stock intake and 3.23's then it did with the SD and 3.91's.




did you have the open or dual plane SD? i was talking about the low profile dual plane




I didn't know there was a DP SD!!!!


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Re: '73 Fury upgrade - asking for help and recommendations [Re: NachoRT74] #1278983
12/30/12 12:18 PM
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I didn't know there was a DP SD!!!!


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