Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 7 of 12 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 11 12
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Fury Fan] #1271149
02/20/13 02:34 PM
02/20/13 02:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
Quote:

ConveribleBee -
Would you be willing to give us a breakdown of what this kit costs (saw the $300 for the BH)?

I suspect a bunch of us are curious yet don't want to bombard Keisler for a formal quote.






I only have the intial early pre production quotes, they may have changed +/- depending on how complete the customer wants the install kit, ss700, just the tranny $2499,...A complete kit, bell, clutch, flywheel, tranny, shifter, driveshaft, crossmember/mount, etc, etc misc install hardware $3600-$3800 depending on application, hyd TOB, add $599....I don't know what discounts may apply


Mike

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: DAYCLONA] #1271150
02/20/13 06:35 PM
02/20/13 06:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
67autocross Offline
super stock
67autocross  Offline
super stock

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
The price is fair, now I hope it fits an automatic floor A body. Not that I care about cutting a car but it would be nice to keep the floor space.


A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 67autocross] #1271151
02/20/13 08:24 PM
02/20/13 08:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 65
Solon, Oh
Convertible Bee Offline
member
Convertible Bee  Offline
member

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 65
Solon, Oh
Quote:

The price is fair, now I hope it fits an automatic floor A body. Not that I care about cutting a car but it would be nice to keep the floor space.




If you had a 727 in it the ss700 will should fit, I have a 904 on the shelf, will look to see if the 727 is much bigger... will try to set the ss700 next to the 904 this weekend an get a picture of them together...
I'm pulling the engine next week to freshen it up for this spring, seals, oil leaks, and have the p/s box rebuilt...

For the price, Dayclona has stated is about what I paid, $3500. trans shifter, driveshaft, shifter, ball, hardware...

Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/20/13 09:39 PM.
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Convertible Bee] #1271152
02/20/13 09:18 PM
02/20/13 09:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
67autocross Offline
super stock
67autocross  Offline
super stock

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
Quote:

Quote:

The price is fair, now I hope it fits an automatic floor A body. Not that I care about cutting a car but it would be nice to keep the floor space.




If you had a 727 in it the ss700 will should fit, I have a 904 on the shelf, will look to see if the 727 is much bigger... will try to set the ss700 next to the 904 this weekend an get a picture of them together...
I'm pulling the engine next week to freshen it up for this spring, seals, oil leaks, and have the p/s box rebuilt...

For the price, Dayclona has it listed about what I paid $3500. trans shifter, driveshaft, shifter, ball, hardware...





Would that be nice if it did fit the auto tunnel! Thanks for checking.

Does Dayclona sell them?


A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 67autocross] #1271153
02/20/13 09:38 PM
02/20/13 09:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 65
Solon, Oh
Convertible Bee Offline
member
Convertible Bee  Offline
member

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 65
Solon, Oh
Let me rephrase that, What Dayclona has stated is about what I paid,

ss700's are only available through Keisler...

Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/20/13 09:49 PM.
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 70hemi4spdbee] #1271154
02/21/13 12:35 AM
02/21/13 12:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
LAR_414 Offline
master
LAR_414  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
How does the actual size of this trans compare to the a-833?

Length from bell face to tail? Any chance of keeping stock length driveshaft?

Has any race testing been done on this trans? Power shifting up over 6'500rpm....not just clean shifting, but POWER shifting up high?

Can you launch at WOT and let the clutch out with slicks?

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: LAR_414] #1271155
02/21/13 11:55 AM
02/21/13 11:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
Quote:



Has any race testing been done on this trans? Power shifting up over 6'500rpm....not just clean shifting, but POWER shifting up high?

Can you launch at WOT and let the clutch out with slicks?







There's a couple of vids on Youtube from Keisler and others testing the SS700 at the track/street

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: LAR_414] #1271156
02/21/13 12:01 PM
02/21/13 12:01 PM
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 136
Oceanside CA
R
relax383 Offline
member
relax383  Offline
member
R

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 136
Oceanside CA
I talked to the designers at SEMA. I asked them why they put one in a new Mustang. They told me they needed an engine they could rev up to 7000 rpms to test power shifting. There is no doubt in my mind from the rest of the conversation that they built a Heavy Duty gear box. Most of my concern came from the Kiesler end of how to get one.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: relax383] #1271157
02/21/13 12:09 PM
02/21/13 12:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
67autocross Offline
super stock
67autocross  Offline
super stock

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
Quote:

I talked to the designers at SEMA. I asked them why they put one in a new Mustang. They told me they needed an engine they could rev up to 7000 rpms to test power shifting. There is no doubt in my mind from the rest of the conversation that they built a Heavy Duty gear box. Most of my concern came from the Kiesler end of how to get one.




It's rated at 700lb- ft so it should be strong enough for most cars.


A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: relax383] #1271158
02/21/13 12:42 PM
02/21/13 12:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
LAR_414 Offline
master
LAR_414  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
I found only 1 video of a newer mustang making 200 runs and 4000 miles of driving....BUT....all the runs were started on a roll, and no mention or incar camera showing how it was shifted or at what RPM. It also looked like an 1/8th mile strip. Not sure if it even made it into 4th gear as a Power shift.

A bunch of videos of Installations. And a lot of talk about the product and then people driving them leasurely down the road.

Personally, I want a trans to handle the power and be able to powershift way high rpm, and be able to drive on the street nice and easy. Not clunking while street driving. Fully syncro'd! The extra 5th gear is just a bonus on top of the other stuff.

Looks like a great unit, but I want to see a Right foot on the floor the whole run, shifting over 6500rpm after launching hard, with slicks at a drag strip....hitting 2nd 3rd and 4th gear POWER SHIFTING.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 67autocross] #1271159
02/21/13 01:36 PM
02/21/13 01:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,533
Indiana
F
Fury Fan Offline
master
Fury Fan  Offline
master
F

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,533
Indiana
Quote:


It's rated at 700lb- ft so it should be strong enough for most cars.



Torque capacity and max RPM ratings are 2 separate design criteria, though. But yes, I'd agree with your statement otherwise.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Fury Fan] #1271160
02/21/13 02:32 PM
02/21/13 02:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
67autocross Offline
super stock
67autocross  Offline
super stock

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
Sounds like it was tested in a mustang with a 5.0 coyote and they rev to 7000-7500 rpm.


A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: Fury Fan] #1271161
02/22/13 11:50 AM
02/22/13 11:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
LAR_414 Offline
master
LAR_414  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
Well......it's gone quiet on this. Guess it hasn't been fully tested on a track!

Jamie got back to me about his trans, and he's tested his pretty good at the track. WOT power shifts at 6500rpm.

I like this SS700 trans, but I'd like to hear / see of some real drag strip testing on them.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: LAR_414] #1271162
02/22/13 02:33 PM
02/22/13 02:33 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
DAYCLONA Offline
I Live Here
DAYCLONA  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 18,157
Mass
Quote:

Well......it's gone quiet on this. Guess it hasn't been fully tested on a track!

Jamie got back to me about his trans, and he's tested his pretty good at the track. WOT power shifts at 6500rpm.

I like this SS700 trans, but I'd like to hear / see of some real drag strip testing on them.








The SS700 has just hit the scene, so to speak, there's a few of the Keisler and enthusiast test RS600 vids out there, as the SS700 is basically the RS600, the RS600 was a remanned T45 from BW with Keislers mods, basically the RS600 was a "filler offering" untill the Legend/Keisler offering was into production stages, the SS700 is a joint venture between Legend and Keisler to be self-dependent on castings and internal hardware, rather than purchase whole transmissions, or outsource the cases, internals, assembly, etc...the SS700 is an internal upgrade in mat'ls and components, and a modified transmission casting...I'm waiting to see how these units do in the hands of the enthusiast before a purchase, if it's on par, or superior to the Tremec TKO600/650, then I have no problem ordering a unit thru/from Keisler, I'm not too happy with the .70 OD, I'd much prefere the TKO600 .64 OD


Mike

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: DAYCLONA] #1271163
02/22/13 03:06 PM
02/22/13 03:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
LAR_414 Offline
master
LAR_414  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,573
...gently down the stream
So Keisler and Legend have not tested this transmission at the track and reported results back?

I understand that they just hit the streets, but even Jamie has tested his transmission at the track in various cars. Even if they are bias results, at least there is something to make an opinion with.

I'm sure the ss700 is strong and all. I'm sure their claim of 7500 shifts are correct. But why have they not stated that you can Power shift it at a certain rpm?

I guess I'll just have to wait for someone that bought one, to actually run it hard at the track and report back.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: LAR_414] #1271164
02/23/13 06:34 PM
02/23/13 06:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,169
Virginia Beach, VA
O
Old School Offline
super stock
Old School  Offline
super stock
O

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,169
Virginia Beach, VA
Quote:

So Keisler and Legend have not tested this transmission at the track and reported results back?

I understand that they just hit the streets, but even Jamie has tested his transmission at the track in various cars. Even if they are bias results, at least there is something to make an opinion with.

I'm sure the ss700 is strong and all. I'm sure their claim of 7500 shifts are correct. But why have they not stated that you can Power shift it at a certain rpm?

I guess I'll just have to wait for someone that bought one, to actually run it hard at the track and report back.



if you are going to be beating the crap out of it at the track, with 7500 power shifts. should'nt you be looking at a lenco? i dont think the passon or the ss700 can take that continous beating for long. sounds like you need a race trans that is built for that kind of driving...


68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: DAYCLONA] #1271165
02/23/13 08:46 PM
02/23/13 08:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 20
Nowhere, USA
O
OUTLAW MOPAR Offline
member
OUTLAW MOPAR  Offline
member
O

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 20
Nowhere, USA
Quote:

Quote:

Well......it's gone quiet on this. Guess it hasn't been fully tested on a track!

Jamie got back to me about his trans, and he's tested his pretty good at the track. WOT power shifts at 6500rpm.

I like this SS700 trans, but I'd like to hear / see of some real drag strip testing on them.



F4




The SS700 has just hit the scene, so to speak, there's a few of the Keisler and enthusiast test RS600 vids out there, as the SS700 is basically the RS600, the RS600 was a remanned T45 from BW with Keislers mods, basically the RS600 was a "filler offering" untill the Legend/Keisler offering was into production stages, the SS700 is a joint venture between Legend and Keisler to be self-dependent on castings and internal hardware, rather than purchase whole transmissions, or outsource the cases, internals, assembly, etc...the SS700 is an internal upgrade in mat'ls and components, and a modified transmission casting...I'm waiting to see how these units do in the hands of the enthusiast before a purchase, if it's on par, or superior to the Tremec TKO600/650, then I have no problem ordering a unit thru/from Keisler, I'm not too happy with the .70 OD, I'd much prefere the TKO600 .64 OD


Mike








The issue raised was "drag strip testing by the manufacturer". It appears keisler is lacking here... Well Dayclona to the rescue to explain away, lack of testing!! "Uh the ss700 just hit the streets". Dayclona, stick to the issue. "Drag strip testing by the manufacturer" not the end user! One more point... just because a coyote 5.0 revs 7500 doesn't mean the trans will shift there at WOT! Plus they have a less than stellar torque number.

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: OUTLAW MOPAR] #1271166
02/23/13 09:39 PM
02/23/13 09:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
67autocross Offline
super stock
67autocross  Offline
super stock

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
Here you go drag strip testing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnwEL8W0Nec


A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 67autocross] #1271167
02/23/13 10:02 PM
02/23/13 10:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 20
Nowhere, USA
O
OUTLAW MOPAR Offline
member
OUTLAW MOPAR  Offline
member
O

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 20
Nowhere, USA
Looks like a weak a$& mustang launching soft

Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: OUTLAW MOPAR] #1271168
02/23/13 10:09 PM
02/23/13 10:09 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
67autocross Offline
super stock
67autocross  Offline
super stock

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,074
Manitoba Canada
Quote:

Looks like a weak a$& mustang launching soft




Yea those weak ass Boss 302's run 11's stock with a set of slicks


A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel
Page 7 of 12 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 11 12






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1